Rolling Rigid Dice (and other Abstractions of Abstractions)

L. Edgar Otto

*1. That a point and all connecting edges from it in an Euclidean honeycomb (delta n) removed results in a finite structure is too rigid a principle to distinguish a space as finite or infinite. For the process can result in other indefinite models of space.

*2. These removed elements may remain ambiguously “substantial” although can be hidden. Style this also the concept of a virtual field or vacuum default.

*3. The designated virtual elements (collapsed or oriented) may not necessarily reconnect in the some complex or ordering.

*4. Invariant light rays can also be described by this quasi-transfinite (QsX) spatial model.

*5. Alternatively, we can have virtual mirrors as quasi-substantial principles of reflection (perhaps also in a consciousness sense).

*6. The accentuation, attenuation, of virtual systems as a phenomenological dynamic and substantial may appear meaningless or neutral, in itself. Alternatively, a false relation within a self contained or projected outside system.

*7. Both principles of space can make a dynamic evolution of state within some potential of expressed boundaries and actualization of organized perceived time and entropy directions. In this mode or “interval” of an existing system we resolve sub-system decay and merger of system modes and directions.

*8. This model can have global (and sub-regional) economic relevance as the explanation, model and method of implementation as Non-Linear Market Economics and social relations.

Quasitransfinite Statististics

In the back of my mind last night I thought that these recent concepts of the quasi infinite and finite (thus the quasitransfinite) could be formulated as a sort of statistics and with the aleph's and boundary concepts like that of Boltzman and his gasses could be shored up as mathematical proofs. I also dreamed of something like a mouse (a turtle actually) which worked to do some of the arrangements and computations. It all seems to me to connect in the model to ideas of baby universes in evolution yet like the gamma ray bursts at the end of our visible world things can have such a quasic coordinate sphere averaging or in the case of other parallel and organic like systems (after all we sometimes are part of other minds in a sort of Spotted Cow Universe or chimera of near souls in the entropy.

I find it ashame that the old sciencechat-philosophychat forum did not consider any of these ideas as new but are stuck in the gray past of what can be the great new colors of science. Yet between the maya (with juna the yin and yang and a third stuff of the world in Hindu with a positive arrow of being)the maya is usually translated as illusion but technically means measure or measurement. I mean when scientist speak of metaphysics they may appear very foolish (unfortunate in the continuity of my conversation they removed most from metaphysics and buried it into odds and ends thread- they cannot bury the truth and eternal truths in all of us. BTW for those who would datamine my creativity there my pics will be posted here eventually as they do not link in the new forum format (save perhaps by some zit faced so called scientist who linked all my newscientist articles to the one on how to use Tampax to study std's. Let us strive for better science sites. Not also the argument today on the blog I follow The Reference Frame on the common sense interpretation of quantum theory.

I am a little under the weather ( did they light up the LHC or something, we are all in a creative funk lately?) I should not have expected creativity from the forum in retrospect- nor that we have faith enough in our kind and nation to further a compromise between the sphere of diversity and immutability as a matter of measured pragmatism instead of ideology.

The Jack-o-Lantern Universe (or the Colorado Shift)

Our human state is one of adapting to the changes in our interaction with the material world more than a sort of saturation to status quo of our spiritual and chemical balance. To this end we imagine intuitively and creatively sometimes a distance from our inner mind and thoughts. The barest hint of an idea can contain whole new world for exploration and revelation of what is the potential in us of the actual. If we are not comfortable with such frontiers and sea sickness of sea changes in ourselves and the world we may not understand the frontiers of what we read and write and believe. One thing for sure, science and philosophy can seem to be just beginning as our eyes open and ending where they are closed.

*1 Where the question of regions of space as geometry can be made more rigorous by
ideas of overlapping- such dialectics (even fourfold) can be imagined neutral globally. But, as said, what seems existent (and the universe not found with origins of the expected patterns of the COBE data) can be seen not to exist as well we can imaginatively question while in the moment our own existing. Can a non-existent God make the universe- is He evolving with such a universe? Do we become God in our awakening called consciousness? Is the most general default that of such non-existences as the ultimate background substantial or actual allow the experiences of what is the quasi-real? Are we in a sense god-like in the first place? In such clouds of data of which it may be pointless to mine the data what sort of rules of the unknown can be encompassed by our algebra of the unknown? How simple and terse the completion of squares even for the idea of arithmetic fractions.

*2 Imagine then a quasic square as if a description of political regions (national jurisdictions for example) in the developing history in question. Are these not as if the confluence of dark and light matter? Are they not conceptually something like the theories of Branes or whatever model we make for the metaphor? Why in the quasic holon view do we hold indempotency as if some pole of absolutes and not something that evolves unto a limit that can be in between and thus a mindful universe in the background of neutral global unreasonable power of our mathematics?

*3 Sometimes the mathematics can get around what seems irrefutable as logical paradoxes especially when we scrutinize the frontiers and boundaries of the world and our perceptions. The epsilon-delta of limits needs to be expressed in terms of the wall of the world even if it conceived as finite but boundless. Where do we reach the fuzzy limit that exists then as absolute as if the boundary of the state of Colorado as if a quasic square or sphere? Where does the unity of aleph 1 cover and is contained in such a region as well to contain all space and its dimensions? In what sense is there a neutral background stability of such a seemingly even if it seems virtual and empty absolute alph 1 boundary? Is it stable in the usual sense as if the plane of functions is vertical and nodes of gravity as stable? In what sense of complex fractals do several regions of some number give us more certainty and predictability ? Does not such a distinction of the indefinite square region and the definite area not speak of inflation and the seeming explosion and direction of the invariant light? Is it not the case that where Wyoming and Colorado touch at such a boundary the hegemony of the other as real space cannot be shown to exist before the boundary is crossed in time save paradoxically on the razor edge as we approach its intricate and extended structure of the boundary itself? Certainly we need to develop the calculus more along these clearer seemingly metaphysical or conceptual lines and then apply it to the real world and not one of just dreaming how we design, we creators, the community of man.

Footnote: In the progression of the quasi-spheres being as the center of a given region in descending (perceived so) quadrants we regard the fourth or southeast as the zero origin in terms of what confluences will follow, say 49 of 64 - much like the yarrow stalks and so on in the tradition as the I Ching is as if a clue to ancient lessons to be applied in a future technology). I feel very keenly the advancement of technology lately mastering what it was back when that seemed to hard but seems trivial now like the power supplies in the era of am radio. The world now looks so primitive at times and the cultural regions as a global thrust of education that seems failing in our state and universities today overemphasizing the arbitrary liberal degrees or in some places mindless engineering (let us not forget how close we were globally to the disaster of world war being civilized beings that maybe if we survive the concept in wider dimensions that of our achievement of nuclear power be not the curse but a great miracle of the power of our species to evolve and think-of course the use of such power defeats the achievement while it defeats immoral war save hand to hand of that self deception as a need ultimately for us primates- we who have gone beyond the hype against cowardliness of the Firing Line against our brothers demonized. In some ways it is all a mathematical manipulation but in no case is it a conspiracy of hidden groups as metaphysically sound.

This zero point of confluence as if a movable clef on the exponential scale can be readily seen to adjust with further complexity the outliers of stars from the mainstream. Between two galaxies or other material things the virtual photocytes create places of structure- as if the geometric creation of craters from some external space is the same description as the crashing into the moon or mars physically of some meteor. Is gravity but the echo of this structural complexity?

Progressions of the Quasi-spheres

In this model, really of cyberspace organization (after all the net evolves as much as it is a dump for information and neutral access for bandwidth) each established region can become a portal which can expand the quasic coordinate to the entire background space. Here we keep the seas the same as if all such genesis of a new nous or universe is similar as a holon more general than the whole reflected in its parts, at least these appear similar in a sort of proximity of vast multiworlds. Even then each nous has its own time and space and subjective history and evolution and we presume to initiate from zero as nous qs-1 but there could be say rs,ss,ts and so on. Do the rules allow feedback looping? Or is it in general harder to do so in the organization and generation of worlds? Does this model not reflect also the complexity and growth of a unique mind and its perspective including the vanishings and the internal changes and the begetting of similar forms and perhaps the radical changes of the actual among the locally logically quasi-unique and possible?

The inverse of color, as of the oceans and land area, represents the more refined "scientific" channels or worlds in some relation (can there be in one world multiple identities as if twins in the organic analog model?" In any case in the forthcoming LoversOfWisdom entity there is room for emphasis on the confluence of philosophy and science as if a vital creative enterprise.

The Quasic Sphere and Confluence

There is a state, a general one, where the question of some configuration being mangled or unique is philosophically a meaningless or pointless question for these interpretations of state can be absolutely the same - a solid ball or an electron cloud the same description. The quasic fuzzy boundary and fractal like sphere allows as much as it forbids as a cascade of echoes (perhaps the discovery of a self-referential hierarchy of particles in almost organic parallels as instrumentally physical and real in concept at least as what is of our mathematics.

That said, we can loosely establish a general structural shadow form of compressed finite (n-dimensional) description of such physical or mathematical possibilities. In a sense it is the fulcrum of freedom yet a persistence of reality as principle.

It is not a clear thing to imagine such parallel particles as pre-ons nor that they bootstrap save by default, nor that the embedded dimensions of such unique but varying independent and irrelevant background differences can have unity of continuity (where after all we can declare that c = c, as if the source of dark force or frozen vacuum may change yet is isotropic continuous and the same)- a generalization of the idea of "constant". What matters then if at variable and dimensionless speed, infinite as Aristotle thought could be or not, if we on much larger scales out of sync into the past and future general relativity seems awry?

Where then is the zero point of these open-closed systems which may indeed imagine ultimate unities or micro particles (moreover parallel systems of them as if composed of organic photocysts and photoblasts the world a shadow of bilateral symmetries? What are the geometrical properties of the qsphere at singularity?

What then of a more general concept of entropy whose maximum near the influence of vanishing light we can pass through the inner structures of parallel maximum entropy as if physical particles?



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The LHC and the Algebra of the Unknown

L. Edgar Otto 10-28-09


In the persistent existential moment
only the appearance that we change the past
On the steps that bind us in early judgment
to the future, both myths made real as history

In that nitrogen to helium frozen supercooled
collisions contained so world configurations begin
We smash and explode time's head on locomotives
close to the destination, perhaps beyond, absolute zero

Our lives and project then as much about
free will and determinism as stored grain and wasted energy
The path of light walks a tightrope, its value variable
yet does not change as if the steeple points somewhere

While we walk around the cross atop it in our circle
A play of time's angles and parallels, linear collapse, real and imaginary

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Footnote: The Confluence will be our new cultural and science creative group to promote the creative arts and yes to hope to sustain them. We will begin with music.

Facebook Dialog with Ari

In reverse order more or less:

Facebook Dialog with Ari

L. Edgar Otto
The Western music notation turns out to be not so medieval after all- but it is far from perfect. Why does a chord tend to resolve into melodic directions? Shades of the 60 and 4 of the I Ching! Tonality of the Will and those 4 bluish notes of the ...seasons. As a lady caller said yesterday on PBS- "between the wick and the candle flame falls the silence." Not only atonal but 24 base music is important.

L. Edgar Otto
Damn, trying to write a Christmass song is so overdone. It came out Gothmass maybe cathartic for the dark side of the holiday. From Thanksgiving to Christmas day having to listen to the musak at work of the Little Drummer Boy a thousand times- maybe one begins to hope the Little Match Girl should freeze anyway. :-)

L. Edgar Otto
I am sure listening to Aaron Copeland on PBS had something to do with it. These chelons are the turtles in turtles that hold up the world, music of the internal spheres. But it does not resolve the mystery of consciousness nor with such limitations ...understood how far the analogy can go into the various higher dimensions.

L. Edgar Otto
Good thoughts, and what I thought made Animal Train a breakthrough and interesting song, written in a whisper. At singularity we cannot distinguish the ultimate from our own source of will and wisdom. Where so words and music come from creatively that we all drink of them? From each of us as well copied by some first awakening. But I have come again in theory to the mechanical isolation and the peaceful solitude. I know there is more beyond the science and the psychology.

Arian Otto
The most important component to music is silence. The breaths between words, break between songs. Most ignored aspect of music. Maybe the sister of dark matter (which is the most exciting potential for CERN I think)
Simon and Garfunkel got it right "hello darkness my old friend..."


L. Edgar Otto
I was thinking along these lines- when does new music become more than a mechanical exercise of composition. But we do not have to generate it all by math if we know how, we can intuitively improvise. Math is music, and again do we make the music or the music make us? Good comments my man- some spiritual things remarkably and magically are ... Read More reached by the rational and faith of mathematics and is only as trivial as we imagine we can make and apply it, But we are not sure of this deep question are we?

Arian Otto
the jump from organizational geometry to the mystery of how it works is usually expressed as the difference between the "flower of life" and the "merkaba"
the shapes building the flower are only combined in consciousness. otherwise it is a just a pile of circles.
I expect there are limits to mathematics potential compared to spirituality. The... Read More sum of all mathematics is trivial and simplistic compared to spiritual knowledge. Math is the Janitor of universe, it can clean up the mess of human knowledge but it is not responsible for the building itself, let alone the use of that building- say the universe is a university. Math is only the custodian.

L. Edgar Otto
For what its worth I found a new class of particles last night- I will style them CERNons or chillons or maybe Clingons. Based on my and Conway's matrix I would have been embarrassed having the separate concepts and notation if I had to explain... them after their discovery. 15 or so and not string theory and promising uses and new measures and concepts of decay in sub-symmetry spaces. I may discuss this on blogspot

L. Edgar Otto Let look head on at the secret symbols of conspiracy. Not that our souls are fragmented but how we deal with it. Jung and Casey saw the future past, but in matters of the mind we have to go beyond those concepts skipping a generation of sorrows. Better days, surely they shall come.

L. Edgar Otto
Hmmmm...hard to measure our two bit souls when gold is now over a thousand dollars an once.

Arian Otto
The obvious symbols are ignored more than the secret ones. Like "$"
our souls weigh 21.3 grams, about the same as 5 nickels.

L. Edgar Otto
Saw Jeoz in the coffee shop who sent me a pdf on consciousness and Nietzsche. Did not post on my blog short concept of Implied Spacious Dimensions. Heard some of Peter's music who loaned me a text, he will become a composer. Chords unique to Western music. Tomorrow is homecoming and I will avoid the mayhem on Water Street, coffee shop closed.

CERNONS, New Class of Particles (in Brown Code)

Listening to Aaron Copeland on Public Radio last night this concept occurred to me based on my own notation and that of the "Conway Matrix". I would be quite embarrassed if having all these ingredients I had to apply it after the fact of such particle decay and interaction discovery. Other thoughts formed also which with some of the existing recent phenomena (tree ring growth, greater ring around Saturn, the ongoing evolution of disease and immunity, the epi-genome, the simulated artificial black hole to store some photons that cannot escape- all of this suggests to me that a certain clarity in positive technology is possible and moreover will lead to new fields that solve a lot of our problems we fear now will limit our lives as we have known it. I am not clear, beyond these sixteen dimensions, if such theories although more restricted than the possibilities of string theory, have higher analogs which have real effects.

Leonard Edgar Otto AF14871466 October 21, 2009 Eau Claire, Wisconsin