Science Truths Beyond New Myths of Science Fiction

Science Truths Beyond New Myths of Science Fiction L. Edgar Otto July 20, 2011

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Well, I will skip the sci fi for awhile as interesting as such speculation may be for the next generation- collect more ideas. Anyway some of it I discussed on facebook with my son looking for a job after his schooling. The social media can be distracting but that is how it has been in the succession of media, radio, television, LP's, computers, games, interactive games, social networks... all of them promising a more universal education but most we cannot resist for the virtual bubble, technical man.

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There are several ways to think about movement through space and time, and where are in it that from our position and stance it is not clear which direction things seem to flow, this a principle as basic as Riemann we could expand upon a little.

* As a working hypothesis and experimental theory, for the sake of better understanding the deep connections and disconnects, the unification of at least other proposed frameworks, alternative ideas offered by those as new physics, that these may be primary to the actual reality of physics, or give us steps to a higher physics, these secondary methods and insights, or proven myth relavant only in useful metaphors for our time, I assert:

*1 In the quasic background, obvious and seemingly logically neutral, a debate as to what in it is related to arithmetical and topological backgrounds, we can say there is a unique and ideal, not necessarily scaled (quasic) ordering of positions and interrelated positions in general spacetime.

*2 These are related in the Arquasic (Arcadian view) as if embedded in at least nine natural dimensions as a TGD framework. The 14 points excluding the end and beginning positions of a four-space matrix of 16 positions is an "ideal" and dimensionally a unique Associahedron for the compass of said dimension.

*3 For obvious algebraic reasons related to absolute values, signs, complexification, invariants and determinants, we imagine abstract motions alternatively changing signs, such that when formally restricted (ideal) to a quasic region of so many dimensions, this represents the concept of a structure (regardless if we choose to distinguish the ideas of what are even and odd description of numbers and the connectivity of dimensions, 0 or 2 as sum of elements) these represent and motivated variations beyond the ideal for the compass of a field and dynamic expression, where the landscape of manifolds such as simple knots, the "crossovers" of braiding across the general 512 (p-adic?) Phenoquasic plane representation.

*4 If we accept as a quantum principle that a path integration (in an matrix of infinite extent) contributes to that observed, and the decay products are enumerated in formulas or as finite possibilities (super-symmetry at the foundations limited as if excluded beyond experimental observation), then the possibilities of what we may see of the occurrence of decay modes at random and relative to the state of the observer, these also are so limited.

As always one should ask the question even of crossover values if there are neutral states of zero crossover at some level of dimensions. Other than the deep philosophic problem of the identity of the many and the few we should ask if given an ideal model that so encompasses all logical discourse and at the remote values of things if contained by at least the idea of higher potential infinities- can we go beyond this system. This can lead to some rather interesting new physics and explanations that even surpasses what passes for the currency of ideas in the most advanced of our projects of science fiction.

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ASIDE:

http://riofriospacetime.blogspot.com/2011/07/christmas-horror-and-moon.html

This is worth reading today- I am not sure I can access the story- but yes, it is sad we are retreating from the era of space. If we can dare to lasso the moon then surely we are strong enough to survive the harsh weather when our vital theories dare being on a ledge.

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Unifying and Comprehending the Variegated Physics

Unifying and Comprehending the Variegated Physics L. Edgar Otto July 19,2011 (5:00 pm in Randal park when the reverse of superposition struck me on a very hot and humid day)

*From the view of a more advanced level of physics we can see the lower physics more comprehensively so as to more clearly understand their mystery, terms, methods, and reasons for the underlying reality of phenomena.

*From the quasic (3rd Physics) view, life and its close relation to physics is demonstrated as a given, something asserted as reasonable, even when only as an intuitive point of departure in philosophy. But without such higher views it can seem only a matter of faith that this appears a scientific revelation.

*The progress of quantum physics (the 2nd physics) will dominate technology in the near future even without resolved links to foundation understood enough to a wide audience and those in awe to pursue even the questioning principles of its foundations.

*We can sustain entanglement and propose to observe a rather large object (articles in science daily and new scientist today, glass beads, cause of galactic bars, and sustained entanglement, contexts of memory in the brain- all relevant to the realization of this principle this afternoon- not that something like Pauli exclusion is to fade as a principle beyond its useful scope of applications even where lesser physics are not unified) and it is proposed to observe a rather large object "In two places at once." But what can this mean in a universe where the reverse is also true and "Two objects (or more) can be in the same place at once?" This would be a better description of "superposition" or where some contexts are observed or not passing thru even horizons. As matter, say a nucleon, quantum aspects resolved, the term or concept of "dark nucleon" - an inadequate term but as best we might describe what seems hidden as a complementary mirror or principle as part of the higher physics (and I do not mean the general vague idea of super-symmetry here.)

*Time travel issues, psychologically as evidence in these higher physics processes is better understood where it can be a physicality of spacetime by these higher principles of space and structure, especially thermodynamic issues, by the Phoenix (4th physics) and Omnic (5+ physics) framework.

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FOOTNOTE next day:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110718171359.htm to be taken as literal in the unity of biology and physics- from link of yesterday along my same thoughts- and as Pikanen observed the software out paces the hardware. So I am considering a sci fi post or so which may show the implication of some of these post-quantum physics ideas as to what the world looks like (including socially) around say 2050 or so. As E. O. Wilson says "there is room at the bottom"

I may post it as "Polymerase Chain Gang Reaction" I do think the progression of technology such as the next is an addictive and false world as a trend to solve social things- I do not think the arbritary cultural things in us are determined by the genes and that further (epigenetic) modification of it as the prime problem to be solved when the physics merge better) The universities with students and the fish farms and the jails are after all the "many things occupying the same space" and fear as a social control of the old Darwinian scarcities.

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Phenoquasics (p-Qs) Beyond Tetronics

Phenoquasics (p-Qs) Beyond Tetronics L. Edgar Otto July 17,2011

I did not make progress, in the heat and all, but did the simple calculations suggested by the recent papers Tetronics. I still feel it was a dead end but I am used now to results in the same day. So, anyway want to tell me what I am doing or seeing here? I mean is is a pure and fun thing in itself but is it physics?

It may be good that it seems to reduce several streams of theories by our bloggers to triviality- including my own. It is one of those things which are too obvious to grasp as relevant to physics I think- so maybe this is the case when we reach some deep and unexpected, unfamiliar foundational frontier. But this could be the case only in combination. Otherwise the falsity of a theory has to be upheld that the other parts of that theory do make a substantial presentation as intelligible physics, much like the CPT problem in combination- we really should learn to live on the edge of discovery and go the last mile in our considerations of what seems an empty discussion on what is empty- even at the risk of cost of our own theories being seen as unoriginal and trivial as so the investment in our experimental projects and the work we do as to be respected careers.

But I will leave to the few who care for such things to see what problems in the design of their logic systems underlying their theories this approach answers. I also invite those with computers to explore such methods.

This chart by the way, with the obvious symmetry of the Fibonacci points, is as far as the condensing of natural space goes, in these two generations- a matter nine quasic dimensions in the 16x32 grid (that ring a bell Matti?).

I cannot help but wonder if I a working a little over my own head here- well, better to be brave facing the unknown-

Pheno is also akin to phi in the poetic sound- I am not ready to suggest a new but exotic continuum for such space but it would be called the Pqscm or Phqs- and perhaps will lead to a fifth physics which is the fall and rise of a Phoenix like relation of energy in dimensions beyond these five.

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Junk DNA and Calculationg p-adic Integrals

Junk DNA and Calculating p-adic Integrals L. Edgar Otto July 18, 2011

I had no results from one exploration of the TETRONIC view of the post of yesterday worth posting. But along the way certain ideas seem to come up. This is not a theory among theories that exists so as to convince someone, to sell an idea such as dark this or that- such ideas have no price- we can live without the justification of some over-theory of credit or economic superstructure or imposed medicine.


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So, trying to understand this- and what Ulla said I commented on Pitkanen's remote DNA recent blogpost.

ThePeSla said...

Ulla, in Matti's article above a link to:
http://arxiv.org/abs/q-bio/0612022

"the chromosome sizes within each eukaryotic species are actually similar rather than drastically"

It an interesting but not surprising result. The DNA acts like a reverse rubber band at some point in the scale to our normal experience of rubber bands.

The arteries and vein are a cable system that conveys information of structure if you must have a physical concept. And the frequency Matti talks about is experimentally connected to the general structure (as well as the position of things) for it can regrow muscle nerve bones, the whole works over three inches or so- thus some limbs do not need to be amputated since this (Pearsons, the guy who said you can say anything in a text book and he who passed out Nobel prizes). Is this DNA related? Some vague field with lines of force? Some correspondence of chromosome size and random data? Or the general picture of things as point positions and position complexes?

Hmmmm, perhaps this frequency coming from the HAARP program is playing with the context of our perception in our heads and making our skulls rather thick. :-)

The PeSla

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It was very hot last night (yeah, I am not alone, and well the global warming issue is one of those of which the ideology either way can be seen as harmful in retrospect.) Hey, I have a cell phone now- let me see, in 2006 the administrator of the tech school (I needed the ability and access to metal working for the candle molds) said I was not ready to go to school and that "to be honest with you it is unlikely you will be admitted if you do not have a cell phone to call you." Well, that and the damn university here (hey guys I have my certified birth certificate now you insisted I needed- so now I can go to school and get my GI Bill - I mean just yesterday it showed on tele how the children of migrant workers got thru college and got degrees- must be important- hey, why could I not get a fruit picking job in Florida when I tried back when? Anyway, not a good time in the heat to be thinking about these things- especially running out of intense directions for thoughts and writing. And I have to put up with the drunks and mentally ill- the one who was fired and in the nut house recently for plotting to go postal on his managers. But they did not give him even a change on his meds. At least he knew not to mix the pot and the booze. I cannot compete with the mentally ill! Not economically and those who make a living with them running the streets and beating up the disabled and so on... "Hey, next time you think about that I have a list for you myself!" "Oh, and maybe some of the shrinks should be on that list." It calmed him down until we could talk art and his future.

Maybe history does go thru some inevitable changes in progress- one mans junk genes is another woman's whole life to make scientific progress in the soccer wars. The woman are then new oppressed minority it seems and the blacks should be left behind again to sacrifice that woman can rise to her equal place.---Wait, it turns out that the gay-lesbians are now the group to be given rights- the next great historical movement 150 years after the civil war. The women will be left behind as surely as the blacks. In fact we can sum it up this way : Pink is the new Black!

I guess if you know who killed Kennedy you are branded as worse than a nut case.

My point is that the idea of junk genes is rather romantic- yet I did not see them as junk and well, I do not think the term is considered accurate these days.

But romantically: clearly your closest relatives are not full of just selfish genes but selfish junk genes- it is even worse when they do not resemble you because already like a new car leaving the sales lot its value is one half- that the cute kid contains the worst alcoholic genes and other issues of your spouse. Not to say one should just clone oneself or ones tribe as the best model (well, the inbred Jewish bankers seems to endure and aid sound economics).

But there are connections in the "sheets of deep or dark space time" between two people. It is a good description and would be an action at a distance if there were distance as such. I mean, not only do I sense the junk DNA that seems in the main to be less dominant than what survives for most genes unmasked are lethal. Sometimes I see the junk gene minds come out and the true picture of just what makes up someone I have encountered who seemed so sound- or someone unsound who as if with a romantic soul the goodness and sensibility comes out.

Anyway, one way I thought of answering the p-adic question of Matti was to take a look at these chromosomal like tunnels as the literal picture and a neutral one in space... after all we can have a physics described by position and points only or we can have, so it would follow and for functions with one to many-values if such things are in a general sense functions, - That the totality or structure of the compass and topology of such a position cone in general is also a description of gene expression, both "darkly" and in its products. Either description will do and comes close, too close to the fundamentals as say arithmetic to see clearly even as a continuous and determined thing, the theory and picture. This is why it is hard to get a good picture of oneself and if it is clear enough as emotionally neutral as every one things they are unique and full of ultimate meaningful high school drama or that they are not manipulated to politically feel the same thing as their army buddy's as to how bad it is to withdraw from Afghanistan- little miss poetess who wanted equality of women- now on leave as pregnant. Deep perhaps in the myth that after Vietnam-ization we will welcome her home and she can compete with all the other state paid mercenaries who do not understand what it was to be drafted or the threat of the draft. And the yellow ribbons and gold star mothers- a cruel way to make a constituency so to firm up the vote who think they are not addicted to the dole of the government once removed by contractors and contracts- as surely as the mentally ill do not think they are so- or that the criminal thinks most others are too stupid to do crimes.




A golden prime is a number that can only be divided by itself and a power of the golden section.

These somehow are related to patterns by the binary coordinates- and most likely the simple 4D structures have to separate out the powers of 5 x tau^n

... this looked promising but is not so far. Of course the singularity and singularity complex idea applied to the tetron-orthogons as algebraic structures do demonstrate the general idea of quasicity- but can it so compute the integrals even when it is understood that such a combination of binary structures each linear have all of the structural complexities of the various planes in conception.

Still, that the next highest constructable power and next lowest being excluded from the scale of the useful information and lifespan of an organic creature is interesting in that such a matrix would indicate an imbalance of symmetry of computation of that plane matrix- the odd things that happen when we add zero to some power of the structures involved to equal every element in the matrix to that power.

The result of this sort of quasi-magic squaring is that if we accept the general Tetronic view we accept that on linear and non-linear levels the matrices are inherently asymmetric along some action or motion diagonal. This sort of vague idea seems a little sounder than some principles, and perhaps, just perhaps, this is a measure of sanity more than genius that we can so distinguish such principles in levels and degrees of abstraction.

But lately, as I observe or hear or read the frontier theories of others I get the feeling I am talking to myself at an earlier time- In fact, I am talking to the set of lethal or junk genes I had then to try to grasp what is important in life and love and theory.

But it has been awhile now since the start of a journey along some line of idea has let me down- I almost forgot that could always happen. This problem of primes and how it fits into the physics of things must be a most difficult problem even when put into simple questions after all- a frustrating problem too- A hot pot of chili a bear steals and it burn him so he tries to crush it tighter.

It is honorable to be a hairdresser... no openings in the computer or welding or accounting departments here- well, there are in hairdressing! You see we humans from long ago in our evolutions glean the lice from each others hair- that or we braid and cut each others hair, dye it, put it into great loops of designs. Maybe if we are not honest and want a little privacy we dab a little dye on the gray- (not me, I am not even a member of the AARP). All the theoretical Nit pickers, stylists, hard to do when you try to talk to me Pe Sla, a vanished nova still basking in the light of his dreams of revenge and trying to quell them, nothing to lose, free range indian scandalous to the dancing with horse hockey by the masses, and of course it translates Old Baldy.

If you as a member in ignorance of some society accept the deteriorating political climate- well, enjoy your delusion while you can that you can make a difference for others and your life means something or could mean it special with a little work- and that you are not just the sometimes noticed major part of humanity, the forgotten genes and junk DNA.

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How is it the cells of heart tissue seem immortal and synchronize their beating and compromise the beat if tissue from another heart is introduced- or that in a membrane filled with heart tissue it not only organizes itself into a heart with the usual vortex making valves- but it beats... if not such a source of structural information part of which is in the genes, all this seen as dark or not?

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I wonder sometimes if people falling apart, their integrity and strength of their immune systems after a battle, if it is not their own fault- a stumbling at least into some maladaptive stance into areas they have not bothered or knew to think about. That and a sort of over redundancy which is too much caution for a stable system.

So this guy comes up to the benches in the morning and borrows a cigarette from the ex-marine. The compare their experiences and it seems friendly enough but things deteriorate when the rather liberal marine and the rather conservative (he said he was in the army but now we are not sure if anything he said was true.) So he notices the purple heart on the marine's vehicle. "If you tell me how you got your wound I will tell you how I got mine." he says to the marine. Somewhere along the way of say avoiding the draft or trying out for officers school and so on- which the army dude turned into a pissing contest if not an inter branch rivally- he said it was a conspiracy to mess up his chances to be an officer and women should not be in the military (which is a point of view but rather rude to the lady on the bench nearby who is to do duty in Afghanistan when her pregnancy is over- having gone thru basic training and being liberal is a little miffed as to why she voted for Obama.)

So the army guy said to him- "Oh, so you wanted to sign up so to avoid the draft evasion consequences- I suppose that makes you a coward." At that point it turned out to go down hill including- "you were in jail again and just another AA retard" of course the marine apologized for saying that later as a mean thing to say and knowing some of the AA guys would have his back, as I would, if it came to a fight.
The army dude also said he was not afraid of his dog- "I know that dog and it would be a mistake I said." Being a nice and family coffee shop the marine and the dog tried to walk away but the army dude (or did he say navy dude, did not say marines) followed him menacingly.

I would have not let more than one punch occur. But it got me thinking of an old Buddhist saying - as sweet as revenge is when you have had things, important things, taken from you and have nothing else to lose, that it is as hard, takes as much courage, to walk away from an argument as it is to fight. So I think, that if the dude walked toward him to fight in a sense he is the one acting like a coward.

So, who won the argument and who will be less in the retreat (after all I knew the old marine vet could barely lift things so would not fare well in a fight)? But the problem seems to be that in the arbitrary decisions of the government and the so called individuals who represent it, if indeed there is in effect a conspiracy to do this and that to someone for the sake perhaps of the trends of the day- that the sob's know your limits, know who after all are the ones who will not go postal- that raises the bar of doing things for the existential hell of it. Yet in a backward way if we want civilian law and control, as with most citizens they are not made easily to vanish without a trace as can happen, but in the end the government depends and counts on their innate humanity in times of crisis.

Yet as in the Buddhist tradition the squeaky wheel of karma does not get the oil and one really cannot expect to count on others or be rewarding for doing good or even that there is justice in the main for those who work evil in this world. Not here and perhaps not in the hereafter- despite the hopeful code of the young Ben Franklin that turns the sunset of a nation into the sunrise and is wise as a founding father.

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More comments to Pitkanen here related (not to the rant part :-)

Matti,

Would it matter if these mass calculations were summed (or as a product or root as I agree is a good procedure to find a common ground for such considerations of numbers as well the halving of things were he raw idea of 512 and so on may have to be considered in unified space beyond our ideas of distribution algebra) started from a sort of point or perhaps as radius of some sorts over the range of these primes? I mean are you not in effect assuming that the gluons have a certain significant mass and perhaps charge greater than zero?

Of course glad to see you trying to apply these ideas to closer concerns of physics than say remote water structures.

If that is the case for gluninos and what have you (or any other structural or no particle like my iotas) would it not be that we have to solve where in a Fibonacci series over the compass to integrate just why the subscripts can show which is prime?

The PeSla (most likely still missing something in the details if not the essential point of your vision.)

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But I cannot keep up the commentary without a direct dialog.

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L. Edgar Otto facebook status:
Now I have a phone, at the rate I am making calls - well there is 248 out of 250 minutes left before they vanish in 90 days. Now what was the point of having a cell phone? Call me, or you can do so now since you asked I get one. Hey, I scared a drunk away last week who thought I was dialing something. Works like a great clock though.

Later comment:

it is not about the phone but the sobs that screwed up the tech school when that could have made a difference saying it was unlikely if I did not have a cell phone- I should call them and say hey six yrs ago I got a cell phone now, any hairdresser courses open? :-):-)
cheers

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well, after a few hours of air conditioning in the coffee shop things look a little better ( so I go shirtless last night and up early must have excited my neighbor... but I just did some mindless watching the news anyway. Not much for writing or thinking so surprised this such a long post.) I just talked to a future teacher of biology and another in the program in Madison and feel encouraged that the quality of our talks and the enthusiasm to teach and do research and be aware of other fields related show hope for the next generation of scholars.

A Child Imagines Falling Down the Wall Paper L. Edgar Otto July 18, 2011

One metaphorical thought lately, the old wall paper as a child of the Chinese fisherman repeated and I imagining if I jumped off the pier down to the same scene again, forever down... such metaphors at least for me influential on the interest to observe and evaluate how the world seems to work around me. Then a three dimensional dream some years later the seeming fall to other levels of the universe and some dead ends and some radically different on some points and the start from a star-ship where we can touch the wall or screen to go down that constellation- and so on... Yet, from the human viewpoint we tend to stay in our same ruts and rituals and only slowly are things changed or disturbed- is it worth the trouble to do certain things or get involved with people save from a safe distance?

But the walls change anyway. We find ourselves in different places far from those we have known who are also in different places- yet we are on the same screen if we dare to touch rather than work the light and blinds to be seen and to see. That is how can we deal with the loss of love and loved ones when they are in theory still the same people in the same relationship we knew... But from a philosophic stance I personally can only sympathize with their own need for time and traps of ritual and if they think about it the consequences of what they did or think as their decisions and so on for in the fall and the forgetfulness not all can come back to where it was. Yet, for the regret and sense of some things- we have never left nor lost what now seems established in some sort of time- I wish I could say this better, I sympathize with myself also a lesser being, instar, me but in a distance as if the wave must return to some height on the beach in cycles and we find ourselves there again- half ready to forget the washing out of past and half way understood things and the desire to write again upon the sand as if this time it will not wash away.

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Tetrons

Tetrons Leonard Edgar Otto July 15, 2011

I thought I might shore up some of the ideas involving phi(or tau) as far as foundational structural things are concerned, and abstract motion.

Basically, the structure involve four space with the five points of the five cell analog to the tetrahedron having these usual coordinates: 0001, 0010, 0100, 1000, and (tau,tau,tau,tau) tau being a key length in considering four space.

Imagining then (the ground of simplexes as sort of forming a general subspace in the world of orthogons, - the Celesticontinuum CCm in my terminology.) But these structural considerations are not all to that celestic space conception as it has evolved in my contemplations.

We imagine abstract quasic motions between the points where the f is the movement thru points, edges, squares, cubes... and so on and the reversed 6 is the number of coordinate changes. Thus we map orthogonal space onto the simplex space.

We note that there is no motion thru three space as cubes and that four space is at global rest of no change of coordinates and changing four coordinates is a linear or diagonal motion (according to the concept of quasic motion).

Beyond this we can imagine (by the rule of the uncertainty of motion in a finite system such as only eight points making a discrete cube) a mirror of this figure where the center is a singularity -symbol ng sub tau (its mirror is of course a singularity complex -symbol ngx sub tau) and in my system we have a distinction in the inward and outward directions- moreover, I wish to interpret the mirror motion as a vibration or an absolute value of such a motion.

Clearly, on this foundational level and here at the simplest case of three and four space, this represents a "minimum quasication" much like the path as a baseball shape represents the minimum quantization of the electromagnetic field.

This simple model suggest also that these have there mirrors as a conceptual aid to what explains certain structures space related such as of particles. This continues to other strictly self dual figures such as the 24cell (and the torus principle in general of pairs of faces or sides).

Also, continued on the other side of this photo of a page is he idea that these general foundational principles should be thought of as alternative ways to view concepts in the philosophy-physics as to terminology to explore how close the meanings. I might consider the cylinder ideas (like mine in the paper pdf I linked to yesterday) as if the idea of wormholes with some sort of wave guide structure and so on for other topological ideas that distinguish the mouth, or the discrete tori that appear beyond invariant ideas of distance that seemed fixed on some sort of relation to what is unique in a range of numbers, Pitkanen's use of primes comes to mind. Also the link on the comment of yesterday to "No Body" who also considers the range of such things where they relate to the group numbers such as the monster group. For in a sense the simple connection between the orthogon and simplex above of abstract quasic motions is a very intricate and general inclusion of the relevant information that can naturally evolve dynamically grounding our ideas of chirality and what is open or not from some view and what is multiplicity or singular in values or not, between the singularity and singularity complex excluded in the background on one hand, fixed and centered points or not, and what might be distinguished in the enhancing or reduction of combining directions at a point as to the splitting or combining of global and local directions of general time.

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A remark after hearing the BBC this morning on Hindu texts (of which I have included certain symbols in the illustrations- that and the Buddhist texts- as a metaphor for some philosophic views such as our sense of some of the quantum implications) which explains God as the creator, who sustains or is the destroyer of worlds. But in a sense we are beyond the useful world as explored and experienced in that many problems of physics is that of what happens at the remote singularities.

Yet from these recent contemplations (such as a higher view of time directions, such a Hindu god identifies with time- offers to free us from the cycles of many lives, a problem of cyclic universes also in their foundational models) Theirs a more inclusive thus more general view of the possibilities of nature and spiritual stances.

But one thing occurs to me (a question that used to come up on the philosophychatforum ) is there a personal God? These recent thoughts in the deeper relation (than QFT) as to what might be a more general view of consciousness, the interplay or necessity of good and evil and so on in the world as signs and imaginary signs and so on, suggests that to the extent we are individually personal the communication with said personal gods establishes our grounding better than simply an idea that supplies meaning. The universe, as existing, even as random and mechanical and uncertain of its purpose, may in a sense identify to us as a personal relationship- one that by the way transcends the issues of an anthropic principle.

In any case we most likely experience something like this in our conscience and intuition as guides a little beyond the reasoning so a little alien- only there may be a voice behind the influences of the said gods and not just the finding of our unique directions and being. But even this is useful information outside the scope of the singularities and paradoxes of nothingness, save maybe that the vague understanding of our awakening and learning in this world goes a long way to explain the contrasts of things like size of particles and entropy in that conjugate relation of information and meaning (Shannon) or the algorithmic and global approach. After all what can we do otherwise with an idea I saw posted yesterday for a Turing machine that could be read all at once? Is that not such a metaphysical problem?

One stray thought was- and for Ulla and Pitkanen's discussion of DNA (again something of the gods more an avatar than some being made strictly flesh or matter as in the powerful Western faiths) as to what is the external or direct way to view the organism as matter or field of usually rejected influences, I tentatively suggest the Mitochondria are analogous to stars and the DNA and its varieties are analogous to black hole like objects as consumers of entropy (Penrose). But beyond these singularity ideas (with the exception that by the principle of uncertainty of what is inside or outside as to undermine the ideas of expansion and inversion that we do find certain hyperbolic descriptions for the interconnection of organic entities in a complicated structure) we have the cell and tissue system of the organism as that covered in the bilateral symmetric creature with a relation to time omnically as far as relative and indefinite life span of the said discrete and conscious universe. But this speculation while novel needs much deeper treatment.

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The Phyllotactic Omnicontinuum

The Phyllotactic Omnicontinuum L, Edgar Otto
July 16, 2011

Last night I considered the concept Rowlands remarked was excluded from his work on foundational physics- the idea of Tachyons. But I am considering this as something fundamental in the nature of time itself in view of new thoughts, especially the role of the discrete and discontinuous probabilistic grounds as part of the bigger philosophic picture. The others as if also a driving force - an explanation to the question why is there motion and rest in the universe, being and change. But I ask this on a slightly higher level than say the origins of such real and abstract motion from the core divisions of philosophy: metaphysics, epistemology, and for some a motive in itself: Logic. Somewhere a unified theory should combine the chance, mechanism, and yes the teleology of the vision.

Yet, beyond what is or what we can imagine, there may be other core philosophies beyond the three as with the three divisions of the continua of physics and as with the quadrature of fields and boundaries and the quasic field and other intelligible arithmetical relations in physics. Phoenix physics I call this for now if it exists and is always our pointing with but the slightest clue to a fifth-ness of things such as dimensions and force. This of course involves further analysis of what we mean by the concepts of infinity as well as the discrete. In the indefinite subtraction of say two potential infinities we observe not a problem or a BS as Lubos colorfully expresses the breakdown of equations in the remote conditions, but that such concepts, driving ones really for the math and the mystical, is indefinite in the quasi-indefinite sense also.

For if we take some of these principles on this blog into our hearts, if we can say something like a negative particle can be described as going backwards in time- then we certainly can have models that can be described as mirrors of this process unto even the complex spaces and beyond- that is like a mirror to the special relativity only -and I note without reading the article on Kea's blog today the idea of a cyclic universe and two senses of time- an old idea like of Bergson as not considered so deep a philosophy or what its interpretation for duration as it relates to a mental phenomenon. Or to the idea that there is an overall balance to the strength of the force on particles and the number of them and that idea expanded for example with Penrose and others that the stars and blackholes balance entropy.

I do not mean to disparage such ideas- to say at remote regions or initial or ending remote conditions and states of the world we never realize such limits is after all no better than to envision the Omnium extending indefinitely and infinitely so as to evade such foundational questions.

Part of the lack of understanding is the trying to fit the universe into the quantum wave function mold- it is not quite strong enough to accomplish this. We need a little more generalization of notions. This approach only results in the explanation of what we might consider happens outside the light cone in imaginary time.

So, we can state, as if there are things like tachyons in the sense that these are at or exceed the velocity of light, that somewhere we can tenably hold that there is greater than instantaneous possible. The light arrives at a place before it is sent. The motion in the world, its measures and differences, is that of the change over indefinite reaches of the whole between these what seems varieties of time and its directions. Quasi-definite time does apply a freedom of chance and structure as to at least locally, and over some wider region, non-necessity is the grounding.

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Not so long ago I tried to develop my myth, Olney, the SphereDream, a fifth of some higher godhead... His walk along the endless beach to Far Rock-a-bye. But even this attempt to form a popular myth to explain science is not good enough to reach the depths of what we now see. I feel we also have surpassed what was ever the wisdom of our ancient philosophy's and religions where they talk about the universe. Of course we might keep in mind some grounding beyond all of these thoughts from our speculations and modern science- but our work is in its own time frames after all if that work is to matter and be of lasting use to the world.

"Olney met a pilgrim coming back from the city after consulting the priests of theory high in the towers at the university in Far Rock-a-bye and the pilgrim told him of his quest and what happened to him- he so desired to tell his story to the stranger be he philosopher or fisherman.

"I have thought I may be a prophet, sir, but now I do not know which way to go along the beach so as to minister unto the world, I do not know if I see the past or the future. The priest there questioned my sense of good and evil and indifference and mocked me with arguments I could not deny in my reasoning."

"Pilgrim," Olney understanding his perplexity and churning heart of sorrows, and in the white noise of the sea the confused and enhanced voices out of time and echoing in his head, "I do not have time to teach you nor do I want a follower, I had a nightmare last night which is very rare and I do not want to explore its meaning least I somehow predict things that will happen should I take thought on them. If you do not know the value of what you are saying how can you trust the words of others, even the priests in the far pavilions?"

Whereupon the pilgrim seemed even more perplexed and hung down his head to walk away in some chance direction- perhaps like a new born turtle instinctively down to the sea recalling as he did some origins where his kind returns to make their egg nests.

"Pilgrim, I will give you this and it is a great secret: There is no Universe!"

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Omnicontinuum Notes from last night:

*The universe has an indefinite but unique lifespan.

*The differences of time directions vary uniformally as if diverging yet connected across the Omnium (the sum total).

*We can interpret this difference, driving the motion of systems, as greater or less than instantaneous and these act as if each others mirrors, quasi-dialectically, thus omnically and abstractly.

*In that statistics grounds the actuality and reality of consciousness a wide and deep statistical ground may be interpreted as the possibility of a greater or ultimate (omega omnium) universal consciousness qualitatively and quantatively more than what we now think, or can imagine of our explanations.

*This concept meets our paradoxes of describing or experience consciousness again as if that in an open or closed-loop like, even cyclic system of indefinite continuity.

*We can imagine a prophylactic cylinder integrating as an arrow given translation but the spiral or helix inscribed on it expanding as if Fibonacci numbers which are equivalent form any number so centered as to the scale and expansion of things. Yet such a thing seen from the end discs (or wormhole-like mouths) are spirals and as such exceed the quasic quadrants in their jumps past phase space excluding negative values to zero but these remain continuous as if in the plus or minus expressed the arrow of action, of time with respect to translation is integrated as if continuous and sets the reading possible for the direction of spirals.

(some things added here to try to make the concepts clearer. In the illustration of the hedges where the discs show the cuts of gnarly branches- yes a crude lesser dimensional analogy- I see the appearance as if spirals, galaxies. I find it quite remarkable the question of evolving galaxies in the sci mags yesterday not two types after all, the elliptical and spiral but by the tricks of light all are spiral.)

Of course, it makes sense to use such a difference in the omnium as a model of fixed and evolving differences of the physicality that generations of particles would have such and such lopsided values until they reach some quasic phyllotactic general system in the expression abstractly and indifferently of even more general ideas of determinate's than say Clifford's ideas, or Dynkin Diagrams of space structures.

Still, it is hard not to think that when the ancients in Babylon or Egypt saw some numbers as sacred, 240 or Plato's 192... it is hard not to imagine they had some good reason and knowledge- or that maybe they foresaw things so far in the first awakening of reason so as to put the enquiry into a reasonable model by their sensitivity as sentient.

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From a higher perspective, analogous to the fact beneath how we imagine the galaxies develop and differentiate- the more general background to some point where we are lucky to distinguish, discern the view... all the twists and turns and jumps of light, some particle we imagine deeper in the super-symmetric worlds but not what we thought with our narrow vision- still, we may praise the dawning of a wider theory of the world even if our expected denizens of the particle zoo were not what we expected- then again, is not such discovery fresh and exciting- especially for those who imagine such things before the fact or even those who would try their hand as retro-engineering a theory to fit the facts?

Can it be that in our simplified maps of particle interchanges and their mediators- not that that they are one of a standard unified system as much as when we probe the complexity at the foundations that we find what we think as an observed particle decay explained say in the simplicity of particle diagrams as the possibilities- that in fact there is an uncertainty as to what particular possibility we are observing, and even independent of our observations we may see different particle tracks and so register the events when all along these are the same interactions no matter what the size of the collection of data, a certain independence in any particular observation or experiment as to which of the simplified models and names in the bestiary we happen to see distinctly at the time?

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What then do we mean by the contribution of all paths integrated when such a quantum sea and flux are embedded deeply into greater uncertainty and greater questions if the sunflower spirals fall out of the context or are dynamically causative in all the paradoxes of time and times and their directions under the same questions of where the physicality begins, and the intelligent beings, in the greater uncertainty that grounds the Omnicontinuum?

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http://goldenratiomyth.weebly.com/phyllotaxis-the-fibonacci-sequence-in-nature.html

As the number of primordia increases, the divergence angle eventually converges to a constant value of 137.5 degrees and thus creates Fibonacci spirals. However, this model is simply that: a model. "Consequently, the phyllotaxis rules I have described cannot be taken as applying to all circumstances, like a law of nature. Rather, in the words of the famous Canadian mathematician Coxeter, they are 'only a fascinatingly prevalent tendency"

But this issue might be questioned as dynamic rather than a tendency, the old paradox of a theory as if vegetation. Particles too, as if an inert law of nature my be a sort of tendency with no clear underlying topology- save to get to some such paradoxical theory- Even if we resurrect the boson only like ideas when the world itself seems to consider particles of half spin as well, and clear zero. Should we be surprised that theories of condensation and symmetry breaking may have deeper meaning especially in relation to what is and how things in the super-spaces relate to tachyon-like concepts of which these with imaginary mass are not stuck in just what we think of as space of the natural dimensions having understood what happens when we cross some horizon to unify something like space and time?

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Wow, I just came across this 1999 paper:

Of course I have read the old and classic books- yet for you algebraist and others who can see the math you will probably enjoy this- and the sense of ideas in it reassure me my independent paths are sound in the results of the intuitions for I see similar ideas and new areas for research. As Rowlands said, paraphrase, the new age and sacred geometry people do not have a monopoly of something that may be of use in the sciences.

http://www.math.smith.edu/phyllo/Assets/pdf/thesis.pdf

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Synchronous Physicality

Synchronous Physicality (Statistics and Super-naturalized Core Methods) L. Edgar Otto July 14, 2011

I find it interesting Lubos http://motls.blogspot.com/2011/07/stationarity-fallacy.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LuboMotlsReferenceFrame+%28Lubos+Motl%27s+reference+frame%29 has a discussion on economics, Brownian motion, related to my general topic of today.

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A Comment to a Commenter on Interesting Dialog on this Blog:

http://blog.vixra.org/2011/07/09/higgs-exclusions-at-900pb/#comment-9003

Mr. Nothing,

I acknowledge your post here as being very close on the right track of how we should enhance the new physics. The truths in science should not be a private thing in which ideas can be considered as something one can steal- can anyone patent the universe?

I have some of the same sort of thoughts lately on my blog efforts. Perhaps there are as many true theories as their are some many world statistics to consider, and each one has a graph that strives for actuality to control the evolving scientific consensus.

But no one seems to have recognized the deeper core of the problem and why some things we have not found- if we do not then the bloggers at least have alternative explanations- yet these do not seem to resonate with some minds talking to the empty wind- so I, another not particularly anybody myself has heard you.

The PeSla

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Synchronous Physicality

It is in correspondence, an averaging, that human consciousness puts patterns together in space and time. This is close in the dealing of cards while nature hold close hidden values in her heart, her mathematics and physics.

So we sometimes, not ultimately sure of the reality or scene of the message, make too much or too little of coincidence, that lesser part of the possible, so make sustaining myths in rhymes and reasons, express our centering and our reaching out through freedom and paths as history and facticity.

As theory and experiment advance to higher expertise and complexity we become aware this faculty of sentient beings in many areas is more complicated than we have heretofore imagined.

What awakens us out of some age of slumber is the self-fulfilling animism of what we fell and often respond with humor or horror, that we feel or know as certain, expected, obvious, and real of nature's laws and the "otherness" of our generations intuitions of wider worlds and accepted stories of angels, aliens, and other hopes and fears as if ghosts we can imagine sustain our haunt us. We sensitive creatures as artists or the scientifically curious.

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These contemplations and looks, the questioning, into a wider background of things in a mathematical and philosophic perspective has me questioning the foundations again and the role of chance in this world. I am not content with some vague idea of when things reach some sort of chaos science that has intelligible rules- yet I can question if we tame such non-linear dimensions, if it is possible that our ideas of a probabilistic space is a little too narrow a vision if it exists at all from one philosophically extreme view- but if it does not then how would this relate to whatever model we may entertain of the cosmology and physics- and even of the phenomena we regard as rather vague and psychological- outside of clear standard science really.

But in raising these issues in terms of my state lottery, the Power Ball in this case which has 59 numbers to choose five of them and one more that can be one of the five, I cannot ignore the fact, or experience, as improbable as it is that I have had a sort of extrasensory relation to the lottery the few times I played it interested in the chance of expanding my money, the need to help others, or the shear experiment of the math of it. These effects seem to almost depend on the belief at the time- or the ignorance of questioning such traditional myths.

While I do not think I can influence the outcome of what happens with say a scratch ticket- I am half convinced it can change before it is scratched off- and after all this is no more absurd than some conclusions from the quantum theory. We can even accommodate some thoughts on time past present and future involved in this as if all the situations can be changed from any time loop or perspective.

Of course some games can be so unlikely that other than those who play- assuming that the random numbers chosen are more likely, that someone of the set has to win eventually- but the point is you would win nothing even if you are near the break even point with the bank. Yet we can imagine situations where there is some method to narrow the computed probabilities, ones not found in the scope of current physics including the heart of quantum theory and computation.

In the past I have had luck with dice designed to work with the lottery games and involving the usual possibilities of their contents and group theory of rotations. A way if you will to try to follow, independent of some history, better outcomes from some casting. Today I tried it for the first time in years to buy a ticket and narrow it down to the sets of 24 numbers in the manner of yesterdays posting. This was not a bad use of a dollar for the sake of theory. The Power Ball seems to me a unique concept as how we treat say certain physics interpretations of the diagonals of a matrix, eigenvalues and all that... but in the general scheme of things we should think of the power ball as if such a diagonal as a zero vector. I wonder in fact if in the system of axes in a dimension if they are more likely to be different rather than the same in some combination's- certainly the laws of physics seems to be simplified in this manner when we understand or ask about what is an actual case we regard as the reality, at least from our own view or centering of things.

So I asked these questions to think about or keep in mind for later:

*0 - Lokon (from the volcano today in Indonesia, or Loco, crazy or place, the coordinates of the power-ball in a quasic field of 64 or so of them) a point-infinity unique "centering" in (super-)probability space.

*1 - The idea of a global summation, fixed and dynamic, Lokons in a God'seye view (perhaps philosophically literally).

*2 - The question of quasi-locality and quasi-actuality as conscious interaction between actualities and this lokon-godseye perspective.

*3 - Uniqueness of a given probability in the 240 quason structure or the further generalization or even collection of them, and thus the many-world and multi-verse issues.

*4 - The quasi- actuality of a pattern as solutions or protections of encoding's.

*5 - The question of exceeding changes and experience for the totality of the system.

*6 - The relationship to QM concepts and the deep connection to pi itself as probability and topology in general if any.

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Today's facebook status:

L. Edgar Otto
It is not replication that makes us mortal, nor if we do not find love that matters. It is the loss of love that makes us mortal. Yet, as rare as a true mystic vision if we survive the loss we can become like the gods.

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Interestingly I got some feedback from our coffee house best chess player (we have long since ceased to play the game but get deep into theory) as I ran by some of these abstract structures for the hopes at least for some advantage in the playing as a psychological game. A novel conclusion is the obvious observation that chess is more complicated than power ball and winning that is of course less of a chance than so many getting struck by lightening. What does this say for all our explorations in trying to understand what is happening in six dimensions? But if by the rules of the game it was all random then our worse player could conceivably give him a sound thrashing a lot more often than the deep sampling of statistical space. But here again we are at the border of foundations- for I have often felt, and it is almost a convincing feeling, that we make blunders in the game once the minor obvious errors general openings and rule are mastered, because the player slip back and forth into parallel worlds wherein a chess master can be inept briefly as if he but randomly had master so much less of the game.

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This seems relevant to my topic today. Something it is good to take into account with the list of other uncertainties, along the lines of we find patterns we look for, perhaps. It is good that such philosophy is kept in mind by those responsible for the research the knowing which seems to me evidence that the human element in enquiry is alive and well. Still, it is not clear to me we can hold it in our heads at the same time when more is less or less is more- something one might say of the simplicity we find in higher dimensions for physical theories or the surprising complexity that can arise from more restricted general symmetries. We are the final observer between the remote scales of physics- but in that quasi-certainty how do we feel secure our views are unique?

http://www.quantumdiaries.org/2011/07/15/more-is-less/

I quote from this the fine distinction between the uncertainty of theory models and that of "systematic uncertainty."


"The final uncertainty, the systematic uncertainty, is the one that keeps physicists awake at night. It’s what we all fear. These kinds of uncertainties enter into our work at every step, they can take months to evaluate, they can spur long and sometimes fierce debate and they can be the center of controversial discussions. Every time we manipulate the data set in any way we bias our measurement somehow. Even worse, there’s no easy way of knowing how many systematic uncertainties there are and if we have taken them all into account."

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