INSEI VII: Calcified Fetus & Baby Talk

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gates_of_Hell Photo modified from my son Justin.

INSEI VII: Calcified Fetus & Baby Talk

The question is what happens when we enter Dante's Gates of Hell (and its inverse) do we find shells of things as if an atom, or some structure maybe in the entropy of a black hole? Or given one of these more Catholic mystical rather than Protestant materialist models of the epics of lost paradise. Calcified Fetus is the idea that the magic of words and alphabets and information can start our but be reabsorbed or left as a pearl in the host oyster for years. What can we speak to it for it is an empty reduction of a form, not even a dead language? Yet, if we speak to the new born, as I feel here with awareness of this alien skeleton inside me- this inorganic and artificial "perhaps Lubos' term Euclidenized fuzzball"- my words have to exponentially grow and so gain the meaning- I too with the raised ultraviolet catastrophe of age against my higher pitched voice, take baby steps with him of encouragement.

A quote today from Sultan Ratrout A low-level discourse finds its way as well as its audience. Don't worry about your high-level discourse for it also finds its way and audience even though the audience is limited in terms of number!

That is the issue also- and a metaphor for the logic of our era here of creative and speculative physics. If the creative is real, it may pass through us and we be unaware of it or invisible to it and it still be part of reality- or in the descent into the varieties of hell as dissolution drink of the reality of it and find steps to climb back thereof... perhaps, our gamble with the hereafter but a higher pleasure beyond the fore brain on which we first fell love.


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Before today's posting I read this article from the reference frame blogspot, and the linguistic post ideas gave me the confidence to question the assessment of Lubos.

http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/10/why-there-are-no-classicalons-by-dvali.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LuboMotlsReferenceFrame+%28Lubos+Motl%27s+reference+frame%29


Lubos,


This is a very interesting report. I feel very much in disagreement with you views on this while I am not supporting the specific way the authors cited say it. I doubt the concept of quantum gravity and I doubt the value of the Higgs field to do what it is said it can. Now these two things I do not say with certainty, but my more positive and classical space is not a fuzzy Euclidean ball. In fact it is not a ball at all anymore than it is a plane. Also the Planck distance may different in some exotic reference frames. Entropy certainly may have different forms and interpretations including ideas of decoherence, I imagine one myself but not sure if it is standard or not. I am not daunted by some idea of the exponential nor any of the disembodied ideas of complex spaces. On the other hand Matti Pitkanen seems to resonate with my ideas more when I struggle to read him with the p-adic ideas. What of the recent ideas on eternal black holes or even mini-holes that some authors use to explain inflation? What of the lifespan of a Proton? Why should something envisioned like a classicalon be observable anymore than some measure or differential of a hierarchy than Higgs like things in any exceptional dimension groups save by a sort of theoretical and logical if not experimental influence?


Of course the truth must somehow connect these poles of physics ideas- so thank you for this reality check of alternatives.


The PeSla

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INSEI VII : The meteor has reached the seventh level of heaven, like Star Trek the search for Spock the carcass of old ideas lands without his consciousness (saved in the hard drive of Bones) on the planet of the Genesis Project- which while the Clingons think of it useful as a weapon and it is doomed for planet forming save to evolve Spocks body again...

I mapped one form, a very arbitrary form, as a code for space relations such as classical movement but not by coordinates but a higher level language as a word. Thus cvcvc for example kakak would be a question or input to which nonon was one of the possible answers, that is the compliment here in binary. As there are four consonants and four vowels there are 1024 words (the point being from the idea of efficiency if indeed that is not a burden in itself) I know all of those words and where they are in the quasic matrix if we assign meanings. I know multidimensional parallels of the c and v parts and laws of addition and so on, and paths that can navigate through the various orthogonal spaces of many dimensions, knots for example.
My familiarity with words, just as with ordered spectra of color, makes it much easier to envision the terrain of these spaces after initial but little study. If we invert the c and v vcvcv we have another thousand or so words. We can play with the models and meaning of words, or combine models with great freedom of what we regard as our shared or independent languages, and the validity of their formation.

Of course I do not speak a Semitic language. It would be interesting to take a survey of the words and map them into the grid, especially bits of rhyme. To measure these general ideas of abstract distances, fractal like and music like between them.

But in reducing things back to binary we can imagine what Leibniz did- there seems to be a good model of such a fixed symbol and mathematical language in the I Ching. To that end I reviewed it in a room mates book. I did this with a view to see how given basic metaphors (that is wood or water as elements are not to be taken literally) led to a higher language and the ground for such a language.

All of a sudden I could see in the discussion of meanings of the hexagrams that what seemed fancy readings with no bases in particular were quite understandable and of a universality which was not totally random in application to a situation. What I would have cast aside as entertainment had the features of religion and magic as well a model for government and commerce. However, part of the personal comments of the author seem very trite and simple propaganda of his view- that did not read as truth toward the youth it addressed- yet when praising the leadership or the idea of family his explanations had a ring of truth. Is it not said the casting of the yarrow sticks may be something one does not want to hear in its objective independence? Of course much depends on the calendar, if that is specific to earth.

Now just what does the DNA code do or encode anyway? Some form of the space in which molecules find themselves in - a blue print for structures? Maybe the recipe for a larger cake and the timing of the ways to bake it- maybe a way that the dust like an antenna can detect the wire and light of things beyond it.

We can encode the four (even 12 or 24) letters as N S E W compass points in a plane or better x y z w in space and the vowels as 0 1 2 3 spaces in that direction. So we set up a differnce in the N-dimensional or Q-dimensional ordering (Natural and Quasic). Doremefaso... music if we detect it also resonates as if we heed, obey the voices we hear aware of them or not... and each syllable maybe multifactorial.

So, just as things are smashed into the Spinozan and Dante like view, or lost in the freedom of dimensions in the Milton or Leibnizean view, between Plato and Aristotle falls the wormhole questions and portals in our mind to a living or fossil language and false or true thoughts and beliefs and ghosts we are an hear- an infinite grid composed of the gates to heaven and hell.

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Later this day:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101018102239.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101018074540.htm

These two ideas, one inorganic and the other organic, I feel will prove to be related as a mechanism of the languages involved.

Of course this too is connected where a generalization of fractal information and these questions of adaptation involve the on and off of hereditary encoding:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827821.000-the-chaos-theory-of-evolution.html

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Also I took and overview at the Arabic and related languages.

Ootoo Alamin azra that is (a musician of the virgin multi-verse)
Literally "worlds", humankind, jinn, angels and all that exists

Quite a profound and detailed language with almost as many speakers as English. It can have the cvcvcvc form but it is rare. Is this not 3+1 as the physics concept?

* * * Here is one example of perhaps an over efficient or ideal encoding of symbols and hopefully general notions assigning values to the grid and rules to read it (as there are many rules usually involving ordering) that I mulled over last night:

Tricks and Treats

I was honored with a good answer and a reply to my comment to Matti Pitkanen: (quite a trick of number theory, and yes, quite a treat.)

Pesla,

I have got too accustomed to p-adic length scale hypothesis. p-Adic mass calculations lead to p-adic length scale hypothesis. Particles are characterized by p-adic length scale L_p=sqrt(p)*R, p prime and R the radius of CP_2 of order 10^4 Planck lengths. p-Adic length scale is of order Compton length and characterizes the size of the space-time sheet at which particle topologically condenses.

Physically preferred primes correspond to p= about 2^k, k integer. Mersenne primes p= M_k = 2^k-1,
k also prime but not any prime, are especially preferred ones. For instance, electrion corresponds to M_127, the largest Mersenne which does not correspond to completely super-astrophysical p-adic length scale. Also Gaussian Mersennes (1+i)^k-1 are expected to be very preferred.

Electron, muon, and tau correspond to M_127, Gaussian M_113, and M_107. Hadronic space-time sheets to M_107 and weak gauge bosons to M_89. This inspires the hypothesis that all Mersennes are physically important and that one has a hierarchy of fractally scaled up copies of weak and hadronic physics. In living matter this hierarchy would show up itself in the richest manner since as many as 4 Gaussian Mersennes are in the length scale range 5 nm-2.5 micrometers.

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If find it a most interesting, and a convincing direction for theory. An interesting alternative to how mass enters our equations. I especially like how it is close to our ideas of number theory (and perhaps the algebra of complex numbers although I feel our physics too long dependent on this concept- a variation perhaps like Whitehead's ideas on the axioms of Euclid adjusted- overlapping congruences.

My last post links to what I think as a novel principle: *m that in information conveyed by light, an analogy to sound in cathedrals, the concavity may change the shape of spheres for within that space "light seems to go faster than in flatland." This then another questioning of what happens in shifting scales of a finite but boundless expanding universe to some fixed state of energy. Certainly, we can imagine that in some medium light would be impeded. In any case, the jazz behind the portal at the edge of the universe (face of God?) may as well be a flux of some sorts- but I hardly think it the foundational case.

There are posts on sciencechatforum asking about the idea of a Torus universe. For me one should ask first about the nature of tori. Certainly it should be obvious that a hypercube contains two such tori. That these can be flat and Euclidean. That the usual computation of volume in the hypersphere is that of the Torus formula. And so on. Very good questions that only begin to sort out what we mean by any of the geometry's of hyperspace. (can the p-adic idea relate to the linear diagonal of a series of quasic hypercubes?)

Now, in the idea of a flat (Riemann sphere) plane we clearly see in the quasic grid that higher dimensions may be represented, including full natural spaces of any dimension and genus). So, can we not imagine effects as if space were indeed two dimensional quasically, and Euclidean, even in the complex planes and whatever compacting of matrices that examines the surfaces and boundaries of such things between dimensions. What would be true of an analog, of at least the low dimensions, to the Spinozan like spheres may also be true to the Infinite tessellations or the twists when we break things down- classically or not- in other words beyond our vision there is a religious element possible in the interpretations and metaphysics if not the physics- most clearly expressed as having substance by the peoples of the book.

I vaguely intuit again that these Merscene or other primes, arithmetical thus intelligible, the nature of primes and so on, would do well to consider double factorials as they correspond to orthogonal quasic structures.

Linguistically, such a quasic grid has me considering the parallels and perpendiculars say of a symbol if not a notion- somewhere in the quasic field of large Clifford like dimension ie n in 2 to the n, where our linguistic universe begins by two words compared and their quasic coordinates.

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Sometimes, to add here instead of a recent post, the simple way we set up the algebra of a problem (one that say leads to a convergence to phi but as a result of the way we set up the equation and not necessarily the observation of that value) will actually have physical meaning where we still have less than adequate notations, notions, and pictures in the foundations of mathematics and logic. In this sense some spurious and creative results may prove true in our human centered intuitions even if hard to prove. But I offer the above illustration as a general question and not a profound breakthrough in detail. Still, a lot more is needed beyond our idols of the various authors and generalizations of spaces of any of the various concepts of dimension. At this point one could question, even without alternatives, if topology and number theory are enough to explain things.

Magnetar

Magnetar L. Edgar Otto 10-17-10



We once dreamed only of the earth, before it thought

flat or round, that within the nothingness was everything



Then our clockwork of the planets and celestial holes

of fire, we still or the sun center, God held by a wire



Newton tamed the tides, his levers weighed the spheres

blemishes on perfection, we nothing special, anywhere the storm of stars



Einstein folded up the dewdrops and crosses of a boundless city

three players in one galactic cocoon on crusades



While Hubble cataloged the clouds, and Becquerel

the broken light beneath the spatial dynamo of frontiers



So we stand and that we do fancy we unique before

that old mystery we whisper, could there be a multiverse?



With keener sight, more of us, the pulsars, freckles and moles

metastasis, more still in our core than seen between us.



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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101014144231.htm

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What was on the other side of the church at night with its decorated style windows? How blurred our vision for those of us have forgotten how to read after the ravages of plague- are we one with the glass windows that tell a story of the light that goes beyond the star ship within or we see into the beyond looking at ourselves in the dreaming. A social gathering I found out, inside was a jazz band, not bad, and all the people clapping...

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19596-robot-limbs-to-plug-into-the-brain-with-light.html

INSEI: VII Amorese, Love and Cosmology

Here is a crude beginning as raw notions, [heart] or [Love] :



But where in space, its design, or for that matter the actuality and importance of the flow and actuality of time is there a measure of intensity and equality?

Certainly *m in that symmetry breaking is related to Fibonacci numbers- and thus the general idea of levels in space to which from some perspectives what may seem not equal are in fact equal. Still, we may assume that as a matter of probability that in a context of a system the equality between things may not be measurable absolutely, in fact these values may vary and even the degree of randomness may be different in effects or influences in some context or model to some general frame or design. So too the same for our notions of absolute necessary senses of our being.

Love, as vectors between one person to another for a human bond, emotional bond, is the same description for unrequited love from one to an other. In the first evolving of our hearts perhaps not to acquire the relationship with the loved one is an earth shaking disaster of which our notions leave a vortex of emptiness that colors the whole of our lives- or so we think at the time, if we so survive the event wounded irreparably to our isolated ideas and faith in new states of love and perhaps even greater ones. But no one wrote the book of love, its reasons and compromises, its vulnerability to our human frailties as the lover and loved one changes despite any wise efforts... lucky at love is that it endures the moment. Yet on the danger of innocence if it survives or not allowed in the beginning is that its lessons learned become our love song haunted by hidden necessity now they ghosts.

Yet, no matter our design of emotions in mental and real space there is a sort of conservation of love as well its gains in thoughts and intensity, a universe that for anything else at least it aids survival in the bonds and lessens life's pain, we the cliche of selfish love between us, ours the whole and isolated universe that is in anguish we are so not each other, when love falls and breaks apart too much and doubts its limits and compromises, does not find deeply its real stable truths. Love even with our ideal soul mate as a notion takes time as well as instantly beyond any ideas of singularity be that full or empty, but once the twists and turns and vectors asked between lovers- love is like the sharing and reading, anticipation of each others minds as if we exchange mere universes- and sense more...

Clearly, when we invert the masses perspectives of the universe in some ways we are isolated and controlled unto some belief or ideal, perhaps fanaticism- a sense of survival and an inevitability of this path historically of our world and its states and denizens - Such love spurned unto conflict and not returned to one model which is artificial as much as real (barring intercession of higher loves for those far from it when in fact it is alive and well everywhere and accessible in all things- so in the myth of civil authorities we should not be surprised that Committees of Vigilance arise to set fascistic example regardless of who is or confesses a crime- after all a civil authority may also let the guilty, shown guilty, go free. Still the ideal is that peace and love, less conflict from diversity or like the short lived Etruscans a narrow other worldliness are attributes of the children of God.

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Here is the idea of Wireless Hearts from Sultan Ratrout which inspired the linguistic thoughts where we treat emotional notions as if words- I imagine it like the jack-o-lantern as classical physics, the ghost as that more than physics, and the quantum cat- humor as still a frontier in philosophy despite its long familiarity and the acid test and question of philosophy- free will and determinism. We have to begin to organize our thoughts somewhere- what better than this idea of social networks with its emoticons and common chat abbreviations.



I understand also a category "inspirational heart"

INSEI: VI Language Models Beyond Current Physics

INSEI: VI Language Models Beyond Current Physics

*l The shifting of the idea of notions and words, not so much as dependent on hierarchical dimensions (thus absolute measure in a monoverse) can be assigned many levels of a model, a syllable is a word, or the combination's or design of syllable systems is also a primitive word. [p], [pvpvp], [letter, sound] or [word or notion].

Here we also include the string like ideas of operations, square-dot-triangle, where they make a self-closed but openly evolving as a possible language and logic system.
Clearly, in a quasic model we can have words of simpler meaning stand for a greater concept of notions than the literal meanings- notions that stand out and as such need to be understood in the translations between languages.

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Here I may come back to post a few minor and speculative ideas. Perhaps the most important is the idea of Twistors as Penrose's quantanglement and information from a general context. In a sense all languages are artificial and only made actual by such a persistence of exchanges of information (Dirac or Majorama like neutrino information and ideas of progressive time become instantaneous time travel) But we can access the general landscape of physics which in theory contains all the numbers or information rather than of just a few bits.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101014144312.htm Here is a sample of the sort of notions of space applied to the question of what a gene is from the standpoint as a movable clef of the music and the staff of space- such ideas would be easily classified in a general physics or metaphysical auxiliary language where we can see on our level of reality (not answering if there is more beyond our monoverse of perceptions and ideas) will handled and remain open to adapting even if the design state is inevitably one of instability and decoherence, by the notions where we may be aware on some level as if a theory of everything that the example above and many like it for genes can come from first theoretical principles.
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INSEI V: New Era of Theory

INSEI V: New Era of Theory

From Matti Pitkanen's blogspot:

http://matpitka.blogspot.com/2010/10/first-rumors-about-super-partners.html

"If I am right the nightmare of 40 years with Higgs potentials would be over. Also the desperate game with horribly ugly Higgs potentials of inflationary scenario would belong to the horrors of past. The entire GUT philosophy which is also essential for QFT limits of super string models would break down and we could start to do theoretical physics again;-)."

A comment to him:
Matti,

Very interesting theories here. Lubos suggests even if the Higgs is discovered the effects could not be but inferred- surely you expect a more detailed mechanism.

I do not understand what you mean by k=89 here. (I mean something in my lack of education so I ask). I would however imagine it had a very intimate relation to symmetry breaking as the 11th Fibonacci number.

ThePeSla

And I forgot to add how much I agree with his quote above on new physics again :-)

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From Lubos Motl, his reply on blogspot:

http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/10/cms-susy-group-working-hard.html

Lubos Motl
Dear Lawrence,

you're close: but the individual events that have been collected will *never* be conclusively showed - and can *never* be showed - to be due to a Higgs boson, even after the Higgs boson is discovered.

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Ulla said... in a comment to Pitkanen:

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/physics/research/epp/seminars/steveking.pdf

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Sultan Ratrout posted on my facebook in our language discussions:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=451071521249&set=a.70614226249.71435.664951249

And my reply was that this struck me as a high level language of notions, that we are not just some reductionist assembly code- the old digital and analog conflicts. That I had a desire to put these into symbols as I did with candle shapes and processes when I made them and with them got a better glimpse of space.

This refers to my last insei IV post.

I think we should be aware in new metaphysical speculations, or for new physics, that in the West explicitly (other forms and cultures may say same things in different symbols) we have to deal with the double influences of Greek science and Judaeo-Christian philosophies. So from a linguistic view these ideas are valuable to debate and are on topic to what is possible in language theory and perhaps in physics itself.

In the comment to Pitkanen above I add that 89 has been compared to the dimensionless constant 136- that is a decimal fraction of the series adds to 1/89, .2358... But to be clearer in this world which to me is a more "quasic" view of what space is- and without clear assertions here, I probably should have said super-symmetry breaking.

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INSEI: Is this Language Project Possible?

INSEI: Is this Language Project Possible?

INSEI IV:

[before posting my thoughts this morning and last night part of them came up in dialog with Sultan Ratrout]


10:06am
plz check my post on religion :)
hi

10:06am
took a minute to kick in

10:06am
:)

10:09am
windows does not seem to get along with facebook on this computer

10:09am
ic

10:10am
first impression is that this is a sort of language with high order logic (well it is computer program based) and some sort of super-verbs

10:10am
ic
before we move, I saved a conv from #philosophy on dalnet
wait plz i want to ask u about something

10:10am
OK

10:11am
@The_Oracle> Topic: How does philosophy differ from science?
science make real progress to our understanding of stuff, philosophy doesnt
hehhe
that was an easy one
i wanan sk about this
On the quantum level, even, you can't really distinguish philosophy and science. <---what does this mean plz
iam not sure i have got it well

10:12am
I think it is more of a Buddhist thing- a philosophy or science to answer the excesses of Hindu heap of philosophy and religion
to see the universe as Poe as a sort of general model which deep down represents a quantum flux of uncertainty yet is deterministic and evolving
... so the question is what was on my mind this morning and a little while last night- of which I was going to post forth segment INSEI- that is the claims of reductionism independent from vague ideas like emotions and faith
INSEI *k Is a unique auxillary language possible?

10:15am
To be honest the degree of possibility is low
due to the factors taht we discussed earlier
i liked to share this with u http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/09/02/stephen-hawking-still-cant-explain-how-something-came-from-nothing/
plz reade Sekharpal's reply

10:16am
...my conclusion is that there is already such a possibility but it is in the form of our mechanisms of organic chemistry thus how we think independently or not also

10:16am
this is how Muslim theologists debate
yes, its complicated ,a complicated thing

10:18am
very very complicated- and yes, even Hawking has to cope with it. But, that things can come or appear to come from nothingness is really not a problem from the Creationist view- be that one of religious or scientific models
how they debate?

10:18am
in the same way
read his reply

10:18am
In the article "First, we are reminded of the theory of evolution. We have no difficulty in reconciling our belief in God as creator with evolution in which myriads of tiny chances, inevitably filtered by fitness to survive, develop into higher forms of life."

10:18am
tow superbeings cant exist

10:19am
for me is not a very good question- or a rather simple one.
two may exist at one point perhaps- the good and the evil aspects of a model

10:19am
ok but those are humans
a superbeing differs
if a superbeing is like us then why not see him
if he is like us then he will be limited in terms of itme and space
time
if x isnt in or outside the space, then its not a nomral being

10:21am
You see, "The drive of Hawking’s approach is that the theory, or rather the family of theories, he espouses leads to the possibility of 10 to the power of 500 different universes (try that on your calculator and watch it explode). Thus the extraordinary fine-tuning required for a universe " is a very small part of physics and not that narrow- the theory needs philosophy to free it from its defects.

10:21am
christians think that christ is god ,this is wrong
how can u be two things at the same time , a superbeing and a human being

10:21am
some think Buddha is god or we make legends of minor figures

10:22am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Smolin
do down plz
go

10:22am
so I ask: If Mohammed is a messenger and does not claim to be a god- and messenger is the meaning of angel- Is Mohammed an angel?

10:22am
No

10:23am
acts as a human as an angel? Certainly angels exist?

10:23am
A humanbeing like a prophet is privileged by producing a miracle
he acts as a human

10:23am
well, this is theology I guess

10:23am
if he were a god, he wouldnt have died :)
my friend is a theologist

10:24am
But linguistically the same logic is a problem
not all christians see Christ as part of a godhead
Jefferson for example, or Unity church, or Jehovas

10:24am
there is big mind in Jordan, one called saeed foudeh, his major is engineering (architectural)
he is too strong in theology, physics, maths,religion, philosophy and logic
he writes in arabic
his problem is that he doenst write in english

10:25am
so what is his idea for a new archetecture our understanding of souls?

10:25am
if he comes to the usa, he will be too famous

10:26am
My albanian friend speaks of such a one- the link is not near, sorry
again, how do we insure the translations?

10:26am
give me a 1 min plz

10:28am
Today I realized any assignment of symbols could be arbritary, cultural and not an intrinsic code or system, a sceientific one. Much like the DNA code is non-degenerate (if I understand that word right). It is just these sorts of string theory that try to explain things in a world where the supernatural is not a needed part of the theory (they think)
But the spirit of such a system merely rides on the system no matter what the nature of the spoken language and symbols.

10:29am
see this is teh nature of language arbitary cultural

10:30am
Consciousness perhaps, intelligience perhaps, there is no quantum gravity as such - and language would then be ineffeciently a matter also of inheritence or genetics- thus quantum is acceptible as not "Jew Science" or say the relativities- but in general it is anti- semitic languages
Jew science comes from the Nazi era yet some of the ideas they used in their weapons

10:31am
yes thats right

10:32am
Well, I did not set out to post politics nor even think about it although it did come up as a reference from the other blogger. Lubos. It is a very very hard problem. Should I post this



10:37am
yes

10:39am
well, setting up pesla now If I can recall the sequence of ideas *k OK Lee Smolin discussed a lot on sciencechatforum
baby universes
anthropic principle being ineffective

10:39am
ic

10:40am
Life will arise even if not in the detail. No culture is stable nor language stable for long as they evolve even if not to a totally new direction
But some things again seem permament in the process.

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INSEI V:

*k Sometimes it is what happens in the fissures of the fabric of the terain of being that is the important or essential consideration about the unity of physics.
There is no reason, other than by agreement, for us to assign certain signs or sounds in a language model. Indeed, there are vastly more models perhaps than in our narrow ideas of topology and string theories- at least up to a truly one universe as a concept we may state without the greater part a vagueness, ever. If this where not true in our era then life would not have arisen as an independent and non-degernerate model- for in the abstract life also may evolve as possible with this cultural and biological diversity. Here the model if not the content around the skeleton of a reduced physics or mathematics is the expression of a deeper language or code than perhaps what we have discovered in our discovery and evolving of speech and writing.

Thus, just as we can show a natural or evolved human language is easier to learn than an artificial one no mater how effecient or not either is- we may deduce that part of language is this aspect of organic inheritence. In fact, this idea occurs to me after saying to Sultan that I really needed to get down to the nuts and bolts of such a language. In considering this, the cvcvc codes, it occurs to me for those familiar with the arguments of this blog that the "compass of the chain code of the 64 codons acts as if such a language and a string theory of our prefered assignment of the functions of that code as to artistic accentuation or description of context. For example four letter ptsk pvpvp or any such group may be assigned some spatial or other function in human level or chemical language. In one model we have the v being aeio say, in which case 16 symbols (but these can be in an abstract model of 24 or 25 as I first planned for a simple model) Yet, from certain reductionist physics algebras we can see the case would be 44444 or 64 x 16.

The result of these thoughts is that from a language project (one we have to ask if it is possible somehow in this world between the fissures and fabric of space and time and consciousness- of many and the best such project- and not one to fossilize human progress or creativity or knowledge, to restrain but permit the widest freedom and freedom of enquiry) Is that unforeseen I have come again to the physics and chemistry themes of this blog with the side trip into the nature of language.

The Sultan has links in the above dialog where we look at some ideas or operations with the computer languges as a model of things I feel are like super verbs. Certainly our human language is freely high level, vulnerable and not some sort of reductionist and indistinguishible assembly code. I might ask if there are better source codes grounding such languages even if we may not know what it is when we use it. Is it as simple in the vastly complex world of the various connections and reading of the genomes that a word may be the energy and the miRNA and the immunity and so on? Between the freedoms (and degree of freedom and asymptopic freedoms and so on) we come again to the great questions and acid tests of philosophy as to what is free will and what determinism- maybe somewhere in between where pragmatically where we should decide or not to get along think about the foundations toward a draft where for now there are really no necessary realities- paradoxically.