Quasic Sub-Manifold
Stereonometry and
the Time or
Tachyon-like Dimensions
L. Edgar Otto 03 December, 2012
Essential illustration added... and too it I put a note on an article I cannot access today on newscientist where someone says its about time we answered the question of origins from something or nothingness of the universe... still, this was the thrust of the theories investigated and for our day it seems good enough... also an article that the evolutionary trade off (science daily) of multi copies of genes that is the price we pay for greater intelligence but is the same source as our mental illnesses. How do we organize and understand our multi layered selves while the existing at least? My point is that from a little higher perspective where we do not explain things based on say the relation of something or nothingness as say mirrors and chirality or even the joint action of things that in the action make the greater part of our vague and poetic idea we call mass, it computes also, is that the question as we have framed it is not essential on the face of it in order to make progress in new physics for it should not be a closed question nor one that vanishes or depends on fluctuations as its scientific grounds of laws and predictions only.
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Ulla pointed out on
facebook an article in Scientific American that was titled "What is
Dimension..." Of course this has
been my long term concern and in fact even Cantor did not succeed in defining
them rigorously. Their answer was the
natural and the fractal types of dimension.
For me, considering the aspects of unfolding things that can be done in
different ways long ago this translates into the two major physics, the
continous classical and relativistic on one hand and the discrete classical and
quantum on the other hand (Ql and Qm, to which I added a more unified yet
separate case Qs for quasicity).
I downloaded
Pitkanen's post of yesterday where he discusses the evolution of his
theory. I find it a very deep
intellectual effort, one that strives to work within known traditions, one that
breaks into ongoing and dawning ideas with theoretical as well as experimental
evaluation of errors and directions.
While our viewpoints may disagree from one of the prime physics
perspectives at some points to which we share independently so many similar
conclusions being aware of the current state of the problem under
consideration- this a rational and scientific honesty that grouds our sound
intuitions although it is quite a climb to discover such things synthetically
and hard to give meaning to them if pure calculation analytically.
My points of
disagreement are foundational or philosophic to which I may question such
things as the only and not the more unified theory such as Noether's what
amounts to a teleology of symmetry and energy or Poincare in his assumptions
about topology. Being more prone to the acceptance of all inputs concerning methods of enquiry I do not make assertions
lightly as to what is a corrective error of theory or intuition at the surface
of some other theoretical framework.
All too often (even
though we all can feel our own evolving intuitions sound in the direction of
form if not the stumbling blocks of error for in general the dynamic gives new
direction and freedoms of possibilities in the compass of self reflection
criticism that leaves behind the empty shadows that new discoveries may arise)
even from imperfect application of concepts based on perhaps (and our language
while informal should tend to be carefully used or intelligible)
misinformation.
We may stumble on the
right answers as if in the sub-manifold at the speed of light as metaphysical
awareness in a classical manner we appeal to a subconscious process of
calculation. The right answer from the
wrong reasons of which we may not be aware there is a problem and before
falling off the cliff into our self evaluation despite the traditional
paradigms we depend also on the less clear and wrong way these traditions apply
so as to limit our taking off into real flight and Jesus Bolt logic in our
gliding. The quantum theory for me is a
little too confining when we enter the wider world of dimensional theory. It is not clear for example where the fractalist
ideas meet that of quantum theory in the complex space world of fractional
dimensions.
From my informal view
what after all theoreticians are looking for and thus what they cannot
presently understand explicitly is the idea we find the grounding if not the
hints of new concepts that evolves to the quasic theory and then onto more
general things I and Penrose dub the Omnium.
Formal education is
as much an impediment as the refining of a language of better symbol design and
the design of our logic systems where we reasonably feel these are viable. What I do not understand about TGD is the
nuts and bolts of the arithmetical calculations which seems to be universally
accepted as a given, an axiom, something which the scientist as engineer
strives to affirm a theory as a fact of the consensus found for a dogma. Consider the endless strife over the
evolutionist and Creationist positions.
But I do not see the
conceptual formulas as more than synthetic of Penrose either, where Pitkanen
puts such equations in his essay it looks much like the formal way the
mathematical physics is done but not in a direct symbols but the use of
different symbols and the same patterns used to mean different things- or even
for Penrose other exotic and simplified notations suggestive of underlying
process as simple as the Feynman diagrams to which the tradition and learning
gives us the context as well the descriptive dynamics imposed by them in the
structural calculation.
So I present today,
discovered half in mathematical recreation only to which there are many fine
new games to be found for those so inclined, not seeking these things before
the fact yet they do precipitate out of the language and pictures, a better way
to explain such arithmetical calculations to myself analytically.
What I have come to
realize, and what this has been leading up to as I stay close to the logic of
Paint and global or local symmetries is that while doing this encoding and
drawing I have found it a great form of pattern recognition as if the quasic
plane is a higher form of a colorized calculator. It is quite likely that humanity over the
ages has used these primitive petroglyphs to express things concerning the
mathematics of symmetry and supersymmetry.
The fylfot for example suggestive of motion such as with the seasons subtracted from the 64 I Ching hexagrams of lines 384 (that group of four
space orthogon rotations and inversions).
This thought to be perhaps the symbol of an ear as well, that is we hear
the inner voice of the pinwheels and axes.
All of this researched as well after the alphanumeric age awakens over the world in the
form of some enduring storage of energy and information over the then recorded
history. This is true if we imagine new
existence possible as well as the vanishing of old existence that some say
makes it possible in all such necessary views of life as a the game. Thus good and evil, albeit these relative
from a philosophic view, play the role of methods to analyze our reality in
terms of what is the good and evil, the neutral, and guaranteed conflicts.
In the West as well
as the East we find this preoccupation with at least four fold symmetry. Things can be centered or progressively
moving outward with grounding ideas of what is the count in natural dimensions
as to the superimposing even or odd the structural center as 0 or 2, or 1, of
Euler's equation of the subcells of graphs.
So on one hand we have in the three space (which by the way quasics in a
sort of generation idea in string theory does explain the deeper nature of
three space and why nature needs more and that one in particular of the lower
dimensional levels- see this concern in Pitkanen's paper also) the variation of
the four winds or the cross- these become variants such as the hammer of Thor
or the fylfot to which in our time we may neutralize the negative association
with that of the Third Reich but not remove its senses. I will say this, it is clear that in the
three space perspective the swastika and the shield of David can fall out of
the same patterns as to what is the centering and evenness.
But in such
Judaeo-Christian ideas of the unification of such physics as in the considering
of mult-sheet geometry (decidedly not of the Riemann variety yet part of a more
unified or TOE-like TGD system) that if in the sense of a 2D surface as if a
brane on the grounding level, that is a quasic grid and plane, we justify also
the Islamic-Christian conflict of geometries where the projection
(mother-child, Father-Son) is reduced abstractly to issues of tiles and the
crystal forms. So the first unification
of the three physics does seem to arise in the terminology of the People of the
Book, but this is not the only tradition to so discover the way
philosophically.
In this looking back
at my own work (and how can such ultimately simple things be worth the spending
a lifetime and the sacrifice if not some deep election and insight that may be
real or not for anything we desire to become or do?) In the everyday business
of living people are interested in the origins and the cosmos no matter how low
or high in place the status of their day jobs.
We dwell and buy and sell dreams as much as any reality or myth or tolerance of disasters as our cost and tithe of living.) Pitkanen in the
article in the interest of communication to Hammed so looking back at the leaps
and evolution in his work as a cue to reply with the same, I too realize some
things that rather than undermine the Einstein like program is the
understanding that it (as well as Feynman's diagrams) endure in higher forms of
generalization.
So too Lubos in his usefulness in some future of the string theories. For what I propose had a moment of epiphany of the sixteen places in the 4 space matrix of his ten as assumed at rest and possibly interpreted as gravitational and the six as electromagnetic thus a magic square unification of which today this array is to the higher symmetries as perhaps we regard the squares and square roots of multilayers intelligibly connected to classical mouths or wormholes or not, as we regard the diagonals of matrices so to show the forces and physics.
With the caution of
Liebnizean infinitesimals as an antidote or different view of things I learned at
the same time this epiphany extend the scope of my theory again from the
childhood consideration of all the stars mapped on a celestial globe although
if hung from a rope going on forever we can hold up the moon from one view.
These then in review
of essential steps (and really we impose on our discoveries, especially the
generalization of the number line and extensions of number definitions a
sifting and sorting of order not necessarily in chronological sequence.) I find
this one of key significance:
*1 Establish an
intelligible general ordering and magic loops if any.
These controversial
ideas (what is magical thinking or not as in the universal topology of Rene
Thom applied to life sciences and human behavior and so on) do seem to
descriptively and synthetically discuss the pattern recognition programs in
terms of what system of topology and general geometry is embedded in what other
different or similar system.
So from the artful or
poetic informal view I propose (and to some people the gloss of exotic symbols
may detour them from the grasping of the beauty of the whole much as equations
in a text can loose many readers from a single one) is not really necessary, an
aid to memory perhaps, but like a poem a cultural or individual thing,
tradition. Not only do we have to study
on our own we have to practice a lot to get the band in sync that the music
integrates them in their perfections and creative improvisations more or less
successfully.
Yet from the purely artistic view this question of what sort of geometries or dimensions are
"embedded" in others is intelligibly suggested as just art at
least. That is we can take the four fold
or five fold symmetries and distinguish that contained surrounded by various
zones of what also separates them. And
so on to higher spaces...
The penni symbols of
Finland or the Slavic one as an ancient sign said then to contain in themselves
the grid or to contain the embedded grid.
In particular we find the Sudoku as Lubos claims it a puzzle founded in Czechoslovakia and later adopted by the Japanese surrounded by higher grids of
the 10 , 11 , or 12 dimensional systems - which by the Knight move theories can
go across all the odd dimensions this way and form a duality within a given
contained set of systems between them on the same level. Perturbations a the ground of things as a view
is not quite deep enough as a system to build geometry upon nor physics
explicitly for the conceptual leap to a well ordered non-linearity trumps the
trivial cases.
This idea and that of
the many-fold sheets can be incompatible in the applications and
conceptions. It follows also we have to
extend the Diracian like algebras. It
follows also that of the Otto-Conway embedded and extended matrices of color
matching. It follows also a more general stance to the nature of discrete
numbers and classes of numbers themselves and what are their nilpotent shadows
of which it seems to me an error (yet not as we may apply the in the real sense
as in TGD as substances) to make claims yet not see the reality of such
supersymmetries or some physical corpuscle to explain away anomalies of dark
matter.
For those enamored
with puzzles such a the Sudoku in my use of the abstract suite symbols what sort
of interesting puzzles may we find by assigning them specific integers that add
uniquely in different ways across the two directions of the quasic grid? What other interesting linear balances of
them when we represent these in other ways, other dimensions or between
dimensions and can this be used to solve better or even program what for us
seems easy but is long winded and hard for present computers of pattern
recognition?
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Interestingly, many continue outside academia as if to compensate for some misstep in time, or perhaps dropping out... and these exceptions may be driven once the obstacle to a true love is there to keep things in motion or to find vindicate the ability to reach the goal redoubled. It seems the very best, once in a decade of students are too far from the mainstream and for some reason not as likely to achieve a place in the world that the yearly scholars who excel do by the tenacity and trudging along. Or some rise Jungian like above the fray and somehow stay alive yet invisible in the process.
We alternative townie in doing philosophy and physics from our armchairs or in the streets, the hungry poet, know of fear a world were we may loose this desire for we have glimpsed the chalice or goal and know what it can mean- this is the truer measure of genius I suspect as perhaps those of us who vanish no matter the quality of our work or the effort- those who also criticize the exotic surprises and thus find the world and themselves too fixed and embedded in restraints fearing perhaps atrophy or awakening to pointless existing or worse- becoming obsolete to what need not have been a decaying world. It does no good to throw good money after bad, that is a few states here will extend the school year 300 hrs to see if it makes a difference in our children keeping up with foreign ones- well, this is quite different from the Finnish system- oh we do not learn from history I suppose...
Let us not get sick over our fading assets, but let us also never give up the idealism hidden in our expectations. I can comfort another, commensurate, decry and say desist to those who test them to the point of breaking- and we will find a way that our small voices they put to the side of editorials branding the role in the essential free speech exception will make a difference after all. All you gods of theory as the reach to some Olympia, we look around in the best of times and worst of times and find our king among the gypsy dancers and the hunchbacks- we should be careful whom we pour down through the gargoyles the hot oil in defense of the cathedral.
Let us not get sick over our fading assets, but let us also never give up the idealism hidden in our expectations. I can comfort another, commensurate, decry and say desist to those who test them to the point of breaking- and we will find a way that our small voices they put to the side of editorials branding the role in the essential free speech exception will make a difference after all. All you gods of theory as the reach to some Olympia, we look around in the best of times and worst of times and find our king among the gypsy dancers and the hunchbacks- we should be careful whom we pour down through the gargoyles the hot oil in defense of the cathedral.
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In response to reading Pikanen's post attempt to awaken us to the TGD vision:
Matti,
This post is an excellent attempt at trying to communicate these frontier ideas. I downloaded it in hard copy of 8 pages and read it carefully. If you are interested in my impressions where we may share some evolution in our approaches I have stated it there.
Professors, like Hoyle when I had tea with him- well he said students are always coming to him to comment on their theories-of course we talked about other things, down to earth and I mentioned supporting him briefly if I did not have other directions but certainly not the new Big Bang cosmology.
Still feel free to comment on my system if I have in discussing yours made it a little easier- then you can get down to maybe something more useful from my own.
I mentioned the Scientific American article ulla had posted in facebook- there was a time when I did break from just those two ways to apply and see dimensions and it was an awakening moment.
I think your more careful formal approach is much more difficult than freely allowing the intuition and poetic magic to flow.
But where you say you cannot understand some things even in the asking clearly that is an achievement and perhaps some things in the context were not an error (holographic stuff and surfaces for example) but the context is such an error.
As to why the advanced culture of Finnish science does not support your project that is like some form of economics it would take another Gauss to begin to phantom although I made meager suggestions.
All in all a great posting, thank you. I do wish I had the training in the exponential type notations but perhaps they slow us down.
The Pe Sla
In response to reading Pikanen's post attempt to awaken us to the TGD vision:
Matti,
This post is an excellent attempt at trying to communicate these frontier ideas. I downloaded it in hard copy of 8 pages and read it carefully. If you are interested in my impressions where we may share some evolution in our approaches I have stated it there.
Professors, like Hoyle when I had tea with him- well he said students are always coming to him to comment on their theories-of course we talked about other things, down to earth and I mentioned supporting him briefly if I did not have other directions but certainly not the new Big Bang cosmology.
Still feel free to comment on my system if I have in discussing yours made it a little easier- then you can get down to maybe something more useful from my own.
I mentioned the Scientific American article ulla had posted in facebook- there was a time when I did break from just those two ways to apply and see dimensions and it was an awakening moment.
I think your more careful formal approach is much more difficult than freely allowing the intuition and poetic magic to flow.
But where you say you cannot understand some things even in the asking clearly that is an achievement and perhaps some things in the context were not an error (holographic stuff and surfaces for example) but the context is such an error.
As to why the advanced culture of Finnish science does not support your project that is like some form of economics it would take another Gauss to begin to phantom although I made meager suggestions.
All in all a great posting, thank you. I do wish I had the training in the exponential type notations but perhaps they slow us down.
The Pe Sla
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