Virtual Engineering Majorana Update and Comment to Nolin

Virtual Engineering L. Edgar Otto 14 April, 2012

I sit by the pavilion by the bike trail near the river to test what can connect to the lap top just out of range of the coffee shop hot spot. There are places but in their little worlds of some contained cyberspace one needs the passwords to the network - such is perhaps a metaphor for how in so called real life or core systems of things defend our beliefs or deceptions. I am thinking especially of a link from facebook which seems to discuss as an April Fools joke the numbers of gods in a universe by some of our modern ideas of physics. We seem to be able in the uncertainty of engineering virtual worlds to come very close to something convincing at some frontier of speculation, even to ourselves. As usual we in self reflection when the descriptions and understandable and transparent understand we so far cannot really discern what is the joke or the reality.

I included the link yesterday for the simulation of the universe and note the domain name includes Deus for the project. Certainly the appeal to God orders of things (philosophically and formally I have reserved the name as the Theotericontinuumn Thcm) must strike us in such reflection and certainly sells books in its appeal to sensationalism- the illusive element of emotions that seem to be just beyond simulation in a machine yet the mind can apparently simulate some idealism of conserved and closed intelligible logic.

So is the question of the article on how many gods there are in a universe and its conclusion it relates to Euclidean ideas to answer this question of universal concerns - that is God as the ultimate concept of inertial systems? Perhaps for all of our science and philosophy it is the sensationalism in the end that for all practical purposes is the highest core philosophy instead of a side issue to the design of the gods.

For example the question (which to me was a quasic one before the general age of fractals in the vague turbulence) does each galaxy in the Urantia Book, a sort of spiritualist book that claims it arose from messages in the medium's hidden or deeper consciousness- is this a meaningful question but not so much about gods as of the physics? Does the frontier problems of physics not at least explain why someone would come up with such a set of beliefs?

My early form of this question to which after explaining it to a southern baptist who preached to the new servicemen in the USO in Texas was to have me pray with him the prayer of which asked the Good Lord to cure me of these errors of thought. If the Christ, on the order of a God, is the one event for all time before and after- and part of the beginning and possibly some final return in the end of events would He be unique to this planet among the billions or somehow there are multiple copies of which some could quite imagine we need some sort of intelligible password to access the virtual space- or as with us is there only one such being of many but one form. Is this not a question of materialization? That as a metaphor for such fundamental physics considerations?

But such thoughts were after all from the early days of speculation and the initial standing as to who a young person may be in the primitive rebellion of the established order as if we the threat of embodied and declared inauthentic alien invaders to the grounded certainties of the age. But as a species do we not want to go beyond this simulated mental universe in our own and its larval stage? There have always been this intuition, real or dreamed, of angels, ghosts, and aliens or whatever form haunts us in the terms of its own day. The paper rules can suppress the mutations that lead to a wider or reduced truth as well such threats we profile as poetry or divination- or even some other cult of sentience or other faiths as religion. But none of this necessarily will change what is the nature of higher and ultimate concerns of the design of space real or virtual or of the influences if any of the close but distant invisible gods as to our unique projects of thought or building things or objects in the world.

I see I have to learn a little more before I can save and recall my long sought for tempered scale of colors so put aside the laptop it having dawned on me that after all away from the plugs by the tables in the coffee shop it is portable and it does after all have a battery, a little surprise I did not think this world work and of course had to test the how of it- I mean do we disconnect the battery from the line to the plug- sometimes the design of such machines know we will have such problems and solve them for us, but it has been a very long time since my first encounter with the screen that monitored what I had typed and where I had been seemed like an alien and living intelligence. Intellect is more than that even as we imagine space structures and operations in the universe as some intelligent or intelligible design. There is more to the Hilbert problems than the idealist and bounded dreams and proofs by Turing and Godel.

A young lady comes jogging by me on the bike trail, obviously concerned a little with her weight. Her pony tail oscillates in perfect step to her fleet feet and modest jiggles. She is perhaps average and it is a good day to be physical. She is dressed just enough to in the abstract emphasize that she is distinctly female as if to orchestrate these basic appeals. She is clothed in her time but does not see me or pretends she does not. I am thinking how humbling when we become aware of our limitations- as in the speed of following the flashing lights to turn them off until the machine beats you in perception and you lost have gone beyond yourself. She is carrying a bottle of water as if we have to buy it in the store in one hand- and in the others she has a cell phone and its texting, multitasking with one finger. Her path is rather safe on the run where someone had laid out the pathway and gave her no obstacles or surprises, nor even the true believers who never cry at the loss of an enemy as if the act is one of a machine and yet anguish and soul searching if one killed a friend by accident. The world changes but not always for the good and we do not know our breaking points unchallenged as the way and grid for us is set and the wealth or cost of living for the margin is foreclosed in time by the default virtual gods who rule the landlines and the data stream and charge toll for the way. Thus it is with so many of us unto strength or exhaustion, so many like Alice running in place.

* * * * * But part of the origin of these thoughts was the idea of other solutions to the soma cube map- in the simple Quason of 256 four space cells it seems clear that we have a simplification of the 248 of the Monster group elaboration. The 240 soma solutions, but as transparent for a diagonal there are 8 and should be 8 more for 256 but these 8 join in a majorana faschion to the original 8 (as Kea described and wanted to invent notations) we have here other sets of solutions but the tricube has two form of which one is a line and the other a right angle as part of global finite group idea of this quason structure with as many solutions. But if we allow an idea of transparency in one direction it makes sense to do things along the lines of Eddington as to 120 plus the 16 of these cells, conceptually. My original questions (as if the specific background of the WMAP even into space is not generally something unique among all possibilities but in the inverses of the somap can the general map of solutions not be symmetrical if we have matched pairs of these 480 sets of solutions?

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Comment to Nolin on Permutations (and thoughts today on the truths and errors of speculation)

L. Edgar Otto

Hi, sounds like you are thinking about some rather fundamental questions. Good. Surely we are aware of the conventional use of such things but some of us see these a little more expanded when it comes to the foundations of physics and among even us there are disagreements. Our minds can reach that level where we are convinced of some theory and emotionally we can cling to what makes sense at the time. But I am speaking on a level a little beyond the usual usages. To start with as the "heart is deceitfully wicked among all things" on our familiar level we should make those distinctions between what is meaning and what is information- also vague concepts and words as certainly our ideas of dimensions and groups. It is good to explore in such directions.

My system comes from an alternative basis for some near total theory - for you quantum buffs out there start and the beginning and turn the Feynman diagram around with Eddington's simple view in mind- the uranoid of his quantum relativity in his book the Fundamental Theory 1929.

Is the universe really limited to such a 256 cell three (or four) space theory as a basis for the description of dimensionless information? Or is there something more to be said here. Now for some to explain the axis of evil for example (quadrapole or octapole) as an influence of other outside univeses is rather cleaver and speculative- but it is not really a necessary speculation for in the general unified case such phenomena are there in the unified general space structure (at least insofar as the general theory reaches for now.)

And these simple models can be quite elaborate so as to seem in the issues that what we observe is a fact of directionality also as in the arrow of time where such flow is asymmetric should we consider all possible finite permutations and so called perturbations.

I welcome your stances and comments, kudos to the spirit of it and good luck in your enquiries. My last post concerned the Majorana concept of particles of which I wonder what your take on this is. Consider simplifying things to a polyhedron of squares and triangles, magic ones with shadow vectors and each a region strict or near but brane-like. In my eyes the snub cube is of only one variety and while the unity of the information it contains is in a sense transparent it is a matter of debate as to if we can think or see through it.

I am posting this comment today as I have very little to post and I thought you deserved a more update answer.

The PeSla

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I see that Pitkanen is making some progress in these directions- while we can reduce things to the realization of a wider new physics, his a Hilbert space at every point these correspond to such things as my singularity complexes or Kea's central combinatioral point among other ideas that skirt the general ideas of symmetry as some form of SUSY within the closed standard models. Now I looked some things up and find the distinction in the technology to an actual Majorana particle like the Neutrinolino is not yet considered the same things as such as I asked. Beyond this let me state from my intuitive idea cerca 1968, where I also had thoughts similar to Pitkanen's take on particle structure, some such particle, electron or fermion not point like is composed of standard geometrical polyhedra of my iota (principle that corresponds to the omnium structure in general) as the octahedron and involving condensing into spaces up to 8D - as I understand it these can be thought of as particles that are collectively Majorana. These are face saving changes to standard reductionist theories not quite foundational such as with the possibilities of double relativity or some further extension of quantum formalism as doubly quantized. If all this becomes clear fact than not only between matter and antimatter can we find even deeper effects but where we may expect breaking into other particles as fourfold perhaps something like a deeper grid of even finer particles, at least implied ones that would be the true conceptual mirror of the analogous effects now researched in superconductivity. The n- bit or unitary or half bit question most certainly applies here in all these intuitive contexts.