Tuesday, April 10, 2012

Fish Comb and Oeconoecos


Fish Comb and Oeconoecos (Dramatis Personae as Consciousness) L. Edgar Otto April 10, 2012


As soon as I can get to a PC rather than laptop (some functions I am not yet familiar with) I will continue this great grand speculation of consciousness in the symmetry between the super and super-duper levels of abstraction as if an abstract science of the unity and fragmentation of the self and soul.


In it I discuss intelligible principles from the physics that may apply to our usual quasi-mysticism of the matter such as if we imagine only the mind as electricity in motion does that explain a term as in Pitkanen and others of Magnetic body? Or while the perpetual motion of enlightenment does the lower dimensions of the self naturally vanish if not grounded in the higher quasi-finite symmetries?


Fish Comb is a poem that begins these notions which our Ulla brought up again.


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Fish Comb
L. Edgar Otto 09 April, 2012



The stage is sand and dunes. The ever present ebb and flow of the waves, salty echoes, pipe songs in hollows, or the burst of wind mud slinging whiffs of crater lips falling from the reed, deflating the jaws gerbil full balloons that release not contained its burst, not the last of air sucked from a bellows.



A few actors pass by each other, rarely speak, spy some shells or bits of seaweed, or sand fleas burrowing between the sea and sand in cycles the littoral shifts their dance as if one felt real their orbits, planets set in epicycles, Gleaning gulls, crabs, reduce drowning minnows, to fish combs.



Life begins at the beach yet it never changes, dies or grows we tease the scuddy sea foam, risk the swells with our toes and are no better than the wake's surprise order sun dried past breakwaters, return to the sea great events, undertows.



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The mare maid in Sphere Virginia picks up one to arrange her hair or scratch her scales, polish her tail fins, longing for the vestigial bones to grow that she walks again, finds her higher soul as all who comb the beach feel a private dream, clam up with but a nod to filter secrets, beards and seams.



Bell bottomed at the watch of bells in the prime of night here the ghost also convene their covens of the coves as on the all saints they haunt the valley from the Hearts mountains, too far away the moon and tide to turn the sky The hourglass cannot match the longitude, gain of days



Her young beaus build forts, fires and sand castles, bury themselves to their necks in sand, no seaman's idiotic worry while still the child drinks life again, no deserts, no doldrums, why seas hum, eyes opened in stinging water, but not blurry.



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1. We have a certain sense of orientation, the up and down, left and right, forward or backward, direction of perceived time... that gives is a sort of position, a toponomy in a general abstract space or field. We see this relative to our sense of a centered self that can be quite independent of the actual space our consciousness as a singularity complex in higher symmetry thinks itself is in. Can such an object really know its left and right from the scale of things and the general circumstances of its spin from some ultimate view? In higher consciousness do we drag such reference frames with us or do even the higher invariants of such reduced rotation really describe these higher generalizations that nevertheless touch them at a distance to some depth. We can feel the solid ground in our feet so orient ourselves in worlds where things are a reality as if weightless.



2. Now, semiotics, symbols and so on, meanings or their interpretations as reasons for, somewhere in the language do we ask and close the matter as a challenge to our intuitive intelligible as Wittgenstein that if the lion could speak we would not understand his language. This between the abstract relative or absolute of consciousness and mass to which we stand upon for some sense of the real and of certainty grounds also our stance to other sentient souls and beings. For the sum total of such generalized methods of mathematics could in fact admit an explanation if not a science of these things, integration thru time of all times and of time unseen at a distance. The idea of Gravity, in such loops or reduced to string simplicity, as principles in understanding the world as best we can being sentient, is at least as complex and more so than the self we know and question in its seemingly perpetual motion and efforts that can ask even of itself who is asking. What is the principle as a given substance of consciousness while not foreign to connections to structures of the physical, is the paradoxical self and central observation on the dimensionless scale of things which here I vaguely formulate as that between the super symmetric and its supee duper generalization. For in the widest model where all things are duplicated or supply by exceptions in the spin some form of mass, the multi world and many world duplicates as well these aspects of principles that are intelligible to self and consciousness as centers of perception, as alive and aware, as learning, as creation and vanishings of the half broken... Who knows what is beyond this if the sentient beings can be generalized as souls- but it has deep relevancy for any principles of new physics in any case. We can walk the endless beach and even sense the change of storms and seasons with purpose or just experience life as if one bend in the river of time not the same river.



Oeconomics plus ecologies- a rough inversion or mirror symmetry of the family of persons, godhead of one in the multiplicity and quasic distinction in the similarity of which this view I have called quabics as a distinct way to view the quasic physics. * * * * *



Comment to Pitkanen placed here for reference and to test the posting system. This p and br code change works but there must be a better way to make paragraphs



Hey Matti,


Odd in the change over to the new blogspot design I find your blog the one hidden one. I don't know what this means but if it means I am not supposed to read let me know so we don't entangle the fractured at a distance dialog.



I have had trouble (since 95 or so) with the notion of using DNA or in tandem to nano-structures as a method of computation and even as a program it is called a genetic or inheritance algorithm. With this method one can run a super computer in a drop of water and answer some of the NP hard problems. But I have always seen the DNA structure itself as dynamic and a program of computation. I am not sure that it will turn out a matter of quantum principles after all, so then your TGD aspects form a view outside of mine and qm formulation. I must think about this.



There are now several surprising layers unexpected in the DNA encoding- the latest is that proteins prefer one of the combinations of so many of the 64 possible of those encoding for the same things. This time delay has effects as a response to the overall system distinct to individual organisms. This is the level at which some sort of natural flow of "dark entities like photon analogs with different virtual Planck scales" may be a system of computation with specific paths of the "TGD wormholes".



But what I talk about is on the codon base level where we apply structure more than on this resulting chromosome level although certainly they all relate.


Consciousness seems in these context even more complex than the DNA or on what physical thing it has to stand on to persist as real and partly conserved and invariant. In a global sense one might say that beyond the quantum symmetry principles the higher vacuum of the field of that described outside of the active logic and process intrinsic to the general DNA that this forms a mirror that could be seen as a virtual substance of consciousness.



But surely this is too simple. In any case to the extent the mind is a chemical and electrical phenomenon qm theory does apply- these principles including the path integrals are really a reductionism to the useful Feynman diagrams and do not restrict what further generalizations we imagine that does not meet the minds eye.



I have caught up some to the new computer landscape since 95 so I understand now html is there to use. I like your page set up. The future will go back to more complexity in pages, several layers I imagine :-)



The PeSla

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