Thursday, December 17, 2009

Why Should Physics not Expect the Supernatural?










Why Should Physics not Expect the Supernatural?
(or the Brittany Spheres)
[the accompanying article and explanation will be posted shortly...]








A Universe of Brittany Spheres
12-17-09

The above staged still life photo is a collection of spheres meant to convey simple and constructable objects from concepts on our familiar scale. The questions that seem to lead to complicated and very advanced mathematics I feel may be ultimately derived from mapping things, in particular spherical surfaces onto a plane. By supernatural I mean this very issue of what is natural (near unity for physicists as the Reference Frame followed blog reports) and my next post begins with the question I ended with for this one. Elsewhere, on the philosophychatforum I speculated that some physical ideas across all dimensions, geometries, present an origin as the difference between our fractal and hologram models, of gravity, the DNA read fractally or the nerve connections as if hologram layers of connectivity that describes a model for the design of the brain.

Two basic models displayed are the solid smooth sphere where we can imagine as if some Platonic conception of the One is a place of ultimately no points of distortion
as in the K sphere group each point an identity element, and on some scale we can imagine it stretched out to a flat plane.

This as an higher analog of dimensions as the wrapping of a plane around such a sphere and twisting the ends (poles) off as if a party favor. The idea then of an "axis of evil" as if from external considerations a universe only explanation of anomalies of the WMAP COBE observations. We note also the flat and crinkled surface of the aluminum foil as if mountain ridges where it seems rolled around even multiply are independent crust modified by expansion or contraction.

By this same geometric analogy of an ocean and inversion of direction and properties the other sphere between gingham discs and cloth planes involves our attempt to cover a mirror ball with uniform squares or other polyhedra.

The celestial globe and its relative spinning equators of season in a sense represent a compromise as if some planet pocked with craters (stars) viewed vaguely- certainly such orientations recall the math of vectors (eigenfunctions)and earth the water world pictured here brings up our issues of debate on global warming and how exactly we see the natural and creative possible descriptions of evolving states for matter. Its crust crudely thought as independently movable over the surface in the shift of poles (a remark by Einstein) and its crust as a three way peeled orange in some n-pole as if a baseball curve along the "rings of fire".

(Continued)

Behind the water-world Earth is a football shaped object that suggests things like rapidly spinning stars in computer simulations may allow for physical (physis=natural yes?) naked singularities.

The smooth stone from the river here, concerning equators and the remapping of hemispheres has two gray layers and a central white one as if an Oreo cookie, not all irregular bodies need be described only by gravity and energy thresholds.

Which brings us to thinking about what is the inside or outside of things in matters of psychological perception, perspective, and parity, with what I presume is the final for a fence post done by injection moulding, as if it had one pole, the regions near the North Pole are larger than those diminishing to the South. Moreover, even if we inverted the inside and outside the screw to fix it on the fence keeps the same handedness. This of course is a hologram myriapolyhedral like model.

There is a black sheet in the background of empty space and a plane of gingham as if a matrix matching a jelly top disc or as a mirror ball to symbolize quasic space. The guitar nearby represents ideas on waves and music and harmonics applied.

All of this on a wicker table of hyperboloid shape as if a nuclear cooling tower - yet the shape comes from linear elements with the same distributed twist.

The Brittany Spheres Cake picture suggests the inversion of inside and outside (the cake an inverse of a chocolate covered cherry). The other drawing based on the flag of Brittany erminos for the color fur black and white inspired by the Greek or American stripes (for in that colorful sense black holes have hair) As we shall come to think about and say much of the interpretation of quantum and relativistic ideas involve the dots (spheres) on one hand as point charges or indefinite but infinite open or closed strings as stripes and other ideas of coherence and asymptotic freedom. In this drawing I suggest and application to DNA gene code of what is initiator and terminator in the 64 exceptional group matrix and that of Conway in the merchant flag.

The corpen pennant and the Edgar Casey picture with pyramids and the 4D simplex suggest more difficult ideas as entanglement and multiverse considerations of actuality and coherence.

I added a further picture today, an enlargement of detail with reduced color information which not only limits the range of enquiry by equations to some approximation but also suggests things analogous to expressed limit approximations or where they are only also tentatively the case.

These informal thoughts were also expressed in recent poems and ideas to be expressed now written but not posted more formally in short notes in a philosophical or metaphysical manner. Interestingly I am not clear how things may be affected if space itself somehow has an absolute logical minimum grain- I imagine this issue as the subject of forthcoming posts which indicates to me as simple as the origin of some of our advanced description of mapping may be that a further layer of abstraction as simple will require its share of advanced math to explain the concepts. For now the idea of iotas, uroids, uranoids and so on which I have called the zero x infinity = unity Omnium principle I imagine particles as if stars or even universes as "birons" from the Turkish, which can give us a simple picture to apply ideas of maths in motion. From this viewpoint we know that our description of the slit experiments viewed alternatively as quantum or relativistic and capable of questioning either view- the duality in particular of the living or dead as simultaneous somewhere or merely superimposed (issues now physically as well as metaphysically debated) may be unresolved because we insist on point or string models and nothing that already is in between in a creative cosmology.

At this point more speculation is needed. Perhaps an appeal to science fiction where we imagine the global properties of star wisps as pictured in Star Trek and just how we are to formulate the mathematics of the one and the plural in an intelligible and coherent manner. Then again in the West we do have these same Platonic and Aristotelian models of some vague religious concept of Heaven. What is mass even if viewed as primary if one might go at warp speed and the stars shrink in the distance or in doing so pass through us and we are invisible to such acceleration?

The higher dimensional toothpick and gumdrop structures in the picture is a reminder of models of cosmology buildt up from the ground of such ideas- and yet although we do no see some arrangements of atoms we on our familiar common sense and natural scale that behave as the atomic bonds seem to do in possible crystals.

A few stray ideas were in my manuscript notes I may post as they are formally rather than trying to make this accessible to the masses and some experts.

Wednesday, December 16, 2009

The Coherent Multiverse



In that the decoherence may be an effect of another parallel universe(s) or so such that the cosmological exploration may be the first evidence of the multiverse as say opposed to the muon or electron wobble, and considering the Reference Frame Post today which all along comes near my views and the paradoxes involved- a thing perhaps in relation to the map projection of the last post if we want to modify a fractal like idea with turbulence -hence the tires or tori as if falling ink in water in the background of these musical issues of what is circular or primary- issues that synchronously appear here and on the science magazines and that excellent blog I follow as if perhaps we in our special reality are aware of in advance or bring these ideas into the world- as the scientists and so on catch up with us or the society resolves its books of erudite and expert lies such as those on global warming and so on, I thought this morning of a circle of colors if folded across a diagonal that the beads of color are either self dual or opposite across the circle as off or secondary colors. This leads to the coherence ideas which I have come closest in the poems on myspace com /ottonian in matters of mind and psychology.

Monday, December 14, 2009

Myriahedral Projections




*** This remark posted 12-15-09 the next day: Of course I look forward to the variations of this projection oriented to the WMAP and COBE data of the cosmic background. In some sense one end of an axis might be in the center.



Myriahedral Projections:


Today On newscientist.com I found this projection (I already knew one could travel the coast line of the earth (see Smithonian some years back) but as this sort of idea is relevant to the points and posts I have been making on space etc... I post it with reference and suggest it is worthwhile to explore all the links. I hope I have not offended anyone by the use of this graphic. Of course it is not the final description of the cosmos space but it is a great intuitive step closer.

http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/unfolding-the-earth

(Ari if you read this an great article on autism appears there also today:
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/12/autism-creates-struggle-with-i.html )

A Walk through Randal Park


Because it snowed it was hard to cross through Adin Randal Park with the S shaped pathways. But I did know the distance to the other side of the square was the same through it or on the snow shelved sidewalks around it. I have not had much to say or think about other than building up my callouses on the guitar for the last few days except this one small thing. So I place it here with a fancy picture and fully understand the fallacy that as we measure the distance down in scale by transfinite numbers we cannot really compare the sides to the diagonal of such figures as a proof. Or can we? I am not sure this is deep mathematics but I do feel sure there are deep consequences to question our methods if we can do them intelligibly.

Friday, December 11, 2009

My Carbon Footsteps


My Carbon Footsteps L. Otto 12-09-09

We may learn that it was always about the content and not the program. That the drive and goal, the soft more than the hardware, the message that precedes the medium and merges with it.

One day looking back at our computer age our machines will seem like horse and buggies against the automobile, jet planes, and global satellites where even quantum computation is a bottleneck in its day, one atom an amplifying transistor.

Even that which suggests what we already vaguely feel and half are sure we know that our organic community can directly link to the mainframe and each other, intuitions in invisibility, influence and order our widening growth and understanding of space and time will be refined and surpassed such that our haunting virtual myths some visit and heed or for to seek rest in what was once our compassionate and fickle gods and secret magic gardens we make manifest.

Sheets of graphite doped with Fullerenes the circuits and detectors of forces higher Casimir. Between us a portal divided yet the same for touch, we flanged and focused multi-dimensional animal star ships of bursting symmetry - so as our life is organized within so too that kingdom among us- beyond entanglement our active aromatic scents that draws together cells, cull and seeks and sorts them out to heal some spark fallen through the cracks of our fragile whole. Our procession that braids and winds our own and the universe's staircase ever new with less of loss our dance.

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The quasic sun has mysteries to reveal still. Beware of false shoots and ladder totalities held complete. We of Earth of grains of dust in our search for wholeness and certainty of survival imagine her alive. Earth and her Wiccan sister, hot Venus, close up, contain and part the clams, drill and rake the oysters, her vanity of cultured pearls in the quasi crystal symmetry of starfish, her Spirograph quintessence full of pentagrams. Between the hottest place, our star and the coldest in the deep poles of our hollow moon the skeptics and the believers oscillate in the climate of new truths.

Our double planet and home feeling alone, abandoned by the father Sun and frigid rocky shore tide flow of the maternal moon, chaotic balance together that we recall the family tree and early water stars that light up in glow worm unison. Whiskers iron the Saturn rings as we keep anniversaries of former times together beyond the umbilical, the parasites of love and dreams awaken in their environs and are freely given milk, take on new colors of spectra beyond our time's age of astrological charts and alchemy of our soul that the sun in his carbon cycle explains the energy and lifespan. Did we not once believe it worked by hearth fire, chemistry not enough so short that lifetime?

His Ouroboros sheets lase and pinch the bells of solar wind. His dynamo and cyclone pocks in spin. His wide gaseous belt flows faster at the equator than the twists and shifts of poles. Slipping skin around his skeleton his moving crust and so called "axis of evil" - three lobes the peeling as if an orange or in his aspect to everywhere his place declared in bell and the minimum of electric quantization of base ball curves and time's direction mono polar.

His jets go through spiral shells in graded steps, some ratcheted. His heart his own reckoning with his inner child and wrestling with angels. He among the billions if failed can outshine them as all souls of celestial fires who obey , some out of sync, psychotic breakdown.

He endures longer than what we now understand of lifetimes in harmony with our wider view and world. The coral and the coal vie for the sinking seas and Earth's children is her most rarefied atmosphere as His stardust builds diamonds coming alive while rains down her cometary waters the wellspring opens out of spirit from within. In our time's closing November and its helping, healing hands of soot and balms we make and measure in this miracle of sun stored wheat and wind and water.

A Universe of Wellness (The Compassionate Universe)


A Universe of Wellness (The Compassionate Universe) L. Edgar Otto 12-07-09

Expressing a religion, psychologically, can not only vaguely supply a sense of meaning to an individual mind but also supply a sense of ontological balance as we adapt and grow, engage the multiverse of our lives where our minds seem a virtual totality.

What seems concrete may of course be a question of interaction with the material world, a question of chemical imbalances if we knew enough about the process and can in fact empirically discover this information.

Yet, fundamentally, the stuff of which sentience is made may be the analog of virtual atoms which moreover within themselves and from their inner view evolve and grow. But for physics, as our world and imaginations may expand what becomes concrete within the simplified physics of the concrete seems an hallucination.

We find degrees of uniform reports and behaviors by which we can compare the evidence of the mind so as to encompass the phenomena into a term where the diagnosis escapes us at that point of ignorance or vague generality - terms physically like fibro-mialgia or psychologically like schizophrenia and perhaps what cancer can ultimately be described.

Clearly, as the concrete world seems to be able to be interpreted as state changes - the steps and theories of stellar evolution for example - the occurrence of Lithium after an age of Hydrogen stars: should one be surprised of the effects, not understood, of this fundamental element on the mental states like schizophrenia?

This view asserts and more clearly defines the schizoid state yet suggests a universal analog or degree of it in the normal population where it adapts (domesticates culturally?) to rational intelligibility (consistency of mathematics and logic on some level of more deeply defining operations between conceptual variables.

Assuming we can diagnose schizophrenia as the progressively misaligned chromosomes in brain tissue the fundamental question is still what relation of cause and effect is clear between the mental and physical elements involved. The nature nurture debate and ultimately the goals of the design of a general system such as our organ ones suggest we should keep underlying philosophic views in mind in our scientific enquiries.

As our mind grows physically and mentally, as we expand into some aspect of possible geometries (and all such geometries stand or fall together logically) we observe a natural longing for other realms of magical and possibly real worlds and alternative identities. This escape is also a destination of human freedom and imagination, of evolution and freedom as possible itself. This other worldlyness or standing out of our culture and time is a common symptom.

Another common one is the hearing of voices, ones moreover that are heeded and compel from some other, higher or lower seeming place, the effects of psychotic behavior. Yet the heeding of this, of diffuse "will" or "life force" may be something of which initially the mind is at least aware and can ignore or influence with some degree of self control. It seems constrained or balanced in its own intelligibility of inner law in the innate desire for survival, explanations, and identity.

This then is a question of free will on some level and of determinism - an acid test of philosophy in a replete world of physics not necessarily over simplified.

What is clear and common is that the wellness and balance of such commanding voices as can influence, real or imagined, that these must be treated for wellness also. Yet, just as if we are created by "aliens" how far can we push the question as to what created "them"?

Again, we come to models and questions of infinite regress and fractal like mechanisms of self-reference and self-creation and all the logical paradoxes involved.

In virtual spheres that we can divide one (as in Tarski's paradox) and reassemble it presents no concrete physical problem, indeed, such logical impasses are a key to the wider application of a wider world view of what the universe is to be understood (surely beyond the natural dimensions in finite analogs at least to the exhausted limits of mathematical properties of groups that we can extend the groups to at least the interaction of what seems exhausted by separate entities or systems. Such string theories of exotic design may well apply to the brain over body only processes.) Do we not imagine such a creative relevancy in the fragmented wills, desires and identities of our experience of mind?

From the physical view considering the state of the universe this is presently or is perceived at hand, if we imagine the universe as mind, should we not clearly establish that the metaphysics is or not a universe of actual mind? The possibility is that different ground may in a sense coexist virtually or for awhile as the ultimate reality to date. What is the wellness of our wilderness, especially as math and physics?

One of the deepest pf philosophic questions in our day is that if we modify or treat a patient for some mental condition that the behavior and physical health seems to solve the chemical and ontological instabilities- do we in fact have the same identity as real after treatment? From what perspective if any can a further revolution in psychiatry connect to a universe of natural wellness?
It would seem we are on the verge of one that is not just tied to questions of balances of nature and nurture or genes and chemicals from just a non-design probability view alone.

Tuesday, December 8, 2009

In Praise of Our Teachers Then Easy and Tough


In Praise of Our Teachers Then Easy and Tough

Back when the waters of Chesapeake Bay were far more pure than they are today and the Tidewaters teemed with a couple of thousand species, I discovered science. The transition between the usual fears of childhood and the awakening drives of adolescence found such a favorable time for any young Aristotle or sea daring Darwin to explore the world's near and distant shores. Yes, to revel in the dream of life, make sense of it, find more than a solid ground for dreaming but new prospects and promise as well. Somewhere between the atomic age beginning and the space age awakening the old house on Derby Road- not a speck in time and spacious skies, was my whole universe in which to play and that world was growing.

My father was a Chief Petty Officer in the Navy who would spend months at a time at sea, a radioman who encouraged my interests in science. He suggested projects and gave me one of the first kits with a transistor. He bought the usual chemistry sets but was reluctant to do so as he had more interest and faith in physics- more of an engineer really who was skeptical of the theoretical. Yet when it came to eventual access and shared interest in his telescopes and microscope and arranging lens, eventually giving me my first microscope, we shared a passion. For physics itself I did excel in my exploring electrostatic and magnetic forces and building crystal radios and antennas.

I had read in one of the old books scattered around the house that one could see the stars from a deep well during the day and in the closet of my room, once filled with angel wings, I set up my lab in the dark. Neptune was the last planet mentioned in them and the flag of Russia was the same as it is now after the Soviets.

He did not think it a good idea I did work in the closet so checking on me said he was amazed that I had taken my toy microscope and extended it with a cardboard tube taller than myself. I was able to focus it with a series of bent coat hangers. He asked me who told me to make the inside of the tube black with crepe paper.

I also had a sense of the need for secrecy and beginning with Morse Code and Naval signal flags studied ciphers and alphabets- some things back then seemed wise to by stealth in closets. That careful sense of caution stayed with me a very long time. After all we were awakened int he middle of the night when the television transmitted programming of the first hydrogen bomb explosion. I remarked it was a lot of bomb for a few ships and my dad looked sad and stern and said to me that it was for cities.

As I was interested in geography and one day at his office while stationed at the naval base, I drew a pretty good map of the world which impressed his fellow sailors. So one Christmas I found a glow that glowed from inside with a light bulb. As I had traced things like photos of my brother with the window pain and light behind it from the outside- the tracings at first were praised as an artistic ability to draw faces until I disappointing them showing the process- you can imagine my surprise when I took paper to my globe and tried to trace the outline of the forty-eight states. No matter how carefully I tried the border would not close up. This small experience, having missed the critical time it is said children can learn to copy faces free hand without great difficulty, is perhaps the origin of my simple speculations related to mapping and physics for my recent posts here.

Monday, December 7, 2009

Oversimplified Physics


Oversimplified and Obscurely Complicated Physics

I am not sure the last post readily conveys the worldview offered, especially with all the non-standard terminology about what is already a difficult subject with a steep learning curve. I am not even sure what I am about to write here is relevant yet I think it has some advantage for seeing the universe in an overview for the very fact that my self-education and explorations did not benefit from early on training. While I do not play the piano for even a single song I understand the music and have found it simple after all, discovered new things which are known and some which are not generally known. I sense the intelligible where it is in our shared reality.

I will supply a picture to head this post when I can download it from the camera.

What we can construct, say with ball and stick models, can extend into the microworld-for example how crystals are arranged even if we have not seen them. But even the last picture of the universe in my last post may not convey the replete richness of the ideas and concept to which our symbols and mathematics tries to explain. What can be said of the structure and method at any point as if a sea of singularities is but a pale echo of the totalities reflected at each point.

But in a familiar world of three space our intricate mathematics, say of vectors and a unified view conceptually where we can see it in matters like continuity to me amounts to an oversimplification of what we know of the world as geometry, that defined by what we can construct- that is see and touch.

What if something like the Higgs is virtual in the sense that as some have said that it is a time traveler of sorts that would in principle make a barrier to its discovery in the LHC? continued...


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Back - and I guess it was getting technical there. So check back here for the main as yet unwritten post which essentially tries to describe some of these grand universal concepts as analogs to thing like flat crumpled surfaces on balls with the two poles or something like a mirror ball as an alternative geometry and a one pole compromise so as to simply reflect the universe and all found from ideas of mapping the globe and its math.

Also I did write another post called the Universe of Wellness (with a picture of the Buddha of compassion. It applies some general ideas (also a picture of what I call my Brittney cake experiment I baked yesterday). The application is to what we mean scientifically and philosophically by the diagnosis of schizophrenia- inspired by people I know and the little girl on Oprah I happen to see this afternoon.

But the critical question, if we can predict the weather at all, is how can we truly find some certainty in a world of dogma and ideology in science for something as critical one way or the other as Global warming- how effective do we rationally handle the healthy self and soul searching skepticism of our fellow scientists?

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The Sphere Farm Explained and the Brittany Spheres: (hopefully posted tomorrow)
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December 8, 2009 Due to impending Blizzard the posting on this theme and the photos will be delayed. Also to be posted is the following poem:
My Roommate's Virtual Inner Idol Cries Out in the Dead of Night and a relevant lite story relating to the origin of ideas for these recent posts traced to my late childhood interest in science:
In Praise of Our Teachers Easy and Tough

The posted picture that heads this post is of the Buddha whose head exploded and was put back together with ten other heads and given a thousand arms- rather like a primitive intuitive string theory. He is the Buddha of Compassion and My Wellness essay will be included in the Compassionate Universe series.

As time has moved so far past the continuity of the presentation I may just have to post the body of the projected ideas (those not incorporated in other writings around this time) in its self notation of points and language still hard to read and this I will call Footnotes and Carbon Footsteps

Saturday, December 5, 2009

The Self Referential Creative Universe




"The hermit crab depends on its shell to survive and cling to the world as do we for growth and understanding. But in growth and transition to new homes the hermit crab is the most vulnerable. Still, we should not let our imaginations confine thus entrap us." L. Edgar Otto on facebook today, note the symbol for crab as 69 and the frames in the artwork above are courtesy of jenhoney.blogspot.com


The Self Referential Complete and Redundant Universe


Leonard Edgar Otto
12-05-09

Yet the focused geometry between regions of multiverse can appear a complete totality wherein the apparent vacuum of the "creation field" is dynamic to the phenomenal totality.

The mechanism where it is entangled with such totality can be interpreted as self-creation of evolving spaces and elements. the gross metaphors of axes, the varieties of motion, momentum and spin on any relevant and relative scale becomes classically concrete.

The symmetrical processes, equations that weave and contribute to the observed general unity of space has thus and intrinsic irreversibility and asymmetry which guarantees in eternally everlasting states of totality that within it a system that can be said to progress and evolve.

Moreover, we can imagine an analog to time, entropy, energy as ersatz concretely evolving focus, an eka-entropy or irreversible result of motion as the particle of these crude general definitions for the design and discipline of a physics.

This can philosophically be interpreted as "will" or "force" and in any such system complex enough and with dimension enough a game will play itself through unifying wide local concrete decisions with variations.

The mechanism is this universe of "creative physics" and over some apparently bounded interval of ambiguously equivalent transfinite dimension we have the intelligible expressed (as if expanding unto the transfinite dimensions)design of the "improvised infinite" of choices self-defined.

On the psychological level, of consciousness and sentient experience where it survives whilst the music, a level that may be or appear a lesser or greater disembodied spirit or spirits- as individually organized or not in a chaotic sea of chance, or that such things exist as real or as interpretations only- or that these may in a sense be a different or higher self-referential self-creation of some enduring quasi-finite span, the self-reference frame:

The metaphor of spirits, ghosts, angels, aliens- the otherworldly and supernatural which guarantees the perception of the concrete without an ultimate completion of the day as method allowing adaptability - that which does not address teleology even as implied in anti- or a- teleology, a frontier of imagination of sorts, will tend to set the mental mode (perhaps unnaturally where philosophies meet)into polarized and by default complementary extremes glorifying some system as mechanistic metaphysical dogma or scientific chaos as the state and explanation of things observed and uncreated.

Still, these perhaps lesser, psychological (intellectual and emotional)evolving systems as if quasi-symmetric mirrored systems suggest not just some degree of awareness of that external or internal to general systems. For example, to write here in metaphor of this already difficult posting, if in the chaos of learning, exploration. wishes and story telling, ignorance, such spirits or aliens exist, in the eschatology and gesalt of our songs we accept as rational- where these are projections of our natural and human attributes, we may find in our mechanistic power of science that we have evolved to become and are the robots and they existing or not are the pointless powerful yet virtual phantoms.

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Friday, December 4, 2009

Maxims, Thoughts, Quotations







Those who strive for immortality (even of the virtual fame sorts) are also expressing it.


The mediator is the mass- virtual neutrinos on the frontier of entangled universes need no clear dimensions or identities.

Search newscientist.com Octupoles WMAP I found today with corresponds all along to my posts and blogs of music of the spheres.

Lincoln, the string approach and bets on the Higgs and all, what sort of harm to empiricism do you give the anthropologists as to the certainty not found in science if in the end there is no local rigidity nor appeal to anthropocentric explanations needed in the multivers? Perhaps it is harm to what is rationalism. In the ten to the 500 string universes is that such a large number compared with as Penrose says the needle in the haystack of entropy the conditions found with us here by say a Creator?

Are we really debating God Particles (the Higgs) and the Axis of Evil (that effect in the cosmic background) and its musical harmony we need to interpret beyond the data before it overwhelms us into some closing of imagination's doors where we fix the context of what we regard as certainty as science.

Where is it so certain and rigid that in pair production there has to be a definite model of a global warming such that energy as your god and his tablet of the relativity that the virtual neutrinos are not a wider and freer albeit invisible scale of mass and spin- and yes symmetrical laws we put into neat categories in the uncertainty?

The sciencechatforum has become an encyclopedia of experts in their small region of creative influence and fame. As such it is merely a bureaucracy of those who veto the imagination in its needed depths as if graduate students on Wiki and other pointless pee contests apparently for its own sake and not the subject in itself. Of course you could say a lot of us older wise ones can be seen as you said of some as 23, zit faces without the gauntlet of grad school and your mysterious symbols and language. Majorama you understand and say you are no Einstein but you are not him either. Again we need more bits of information than four for entanglement- even with octupoles- and this immortal knowing will not be hidden from the masses.

Tuesday, December 1, 2009

Superfluous Space






Superfluous Space

What a monomark is in the design and ambiguity of a cosmic code may exist as a polymark as well all general systems in consideration, in actuality, expression and imagination.

This model may apply to the gene and epigene code where we deal logically and algorithmically with apparently hidden and imminent but not visible (virtual and even conscious-like as interpretation)space.

By superfluous I mean the quasic effects of regions of space - a superentropy of sorts - wherein what may not be perceived directly as properties expressed and experienced can act concretely in the ambiguity as if a thermodynamic totality that restrains (and possibly censors grounded in the old physics the new physics on some level- is the Higgs knowable on any level of differentiation, or the graviton?) in these regions of expanding decoherence is the uncertainty of what may be by default entanglement with regions of what may be independent as multiverse in a relaxed variably dimensionless unified and fragmented or quasi-infinite system with state change adaptability.

The end state of such conceptual teleology (and the lack of expertise for scientists to distinguish what is physics and metaphysics as if we can string erudite but meaningless words and symbols not clearly a reduction to their own comprehension, that all such code is inadequate to explain the world thus trumped and not explored in their healthy skepticism where that feared or suppressed is method which may become a disparate pursuit of missed higher knowing) becomes and is becoming a beginning of higher enlightenment and evolution.

Emotion is the motion. The one glow is a myriad of sparks of light. In superfluous space the axiom of choice quasi-independently (although the creative, in Hoyle's and Eddington's sense of intelligent combined with design artificially expressed, fields can correspond in regions of relaxed actuality) dances and organizes the design of the selective quasi-finite.

This brings us back to the question of maximum entropy in black holes and the structure or nature of dark fluid matter on what regional level if any. In terms of ideas of struggle it fundamentally goes back to the art of war where we put what is seen or not, a question of spies in uniform or turned as double agents as to what of our choice of belief and observation on the conscious level negotiates the possible encounters that impose necessity or chance, mechanism or vague disorder, or a third possibility where such questions at the heart of what we are save the best of what we are fatally and freely to at least have some healing effect for our frailties of mind and body in the war for our hearts by force or disinformation- and yes to explore carefully new frontiers of an ever less opaque world.

Saturday, November 28, 2009

Quasi-orientation Space Principles



In search of the fundamental as an active idea that connects to the brand whether the fundamental wave equation exists or not that grounds the boundaries of the universe. Are we connected or not to these hidden symmetries of hidden spaces? I am convinced that the healing of minds or evolving of them goes through the realms of concepts and consciousness to more, and that the road to healing is a meditation on the varieties of geometry beginning with space and four space, improvised topology of which we distinguish the folding or extension of space- we ourselves and in ourselves the outer influences of decoherence. But for ideas if one finds oneself on both sides of the questions in a debate on physics or politics it should be taken as evidence that we have not comprehended enough to make clear the problem as to what is right and what a matter of propaganda, and what in ourselves is the real case as far as what grounds us culturally and collectively and concretely in some arrangement of multiverse.

(i) an interval, linear in dimension, bounded by the edges of a one sided surface connected to another such surface preserves the one sided-ness over the combined surfaces and is smoothly invariant with respect to its identity embedded in two or three dimensions and between them ambiguously so interpreted.

(ii) a one sided surface folded on itself such that one boundary is open and one closed at the fold, its endpoints the boundary of the interval (interpreted as a linear and temporally independent dimension ordered so or not; if then this doubled surface is cut perpendicular to the interval, the whole surface is cut in half and at the edge of the closed boundary, throughout, and divides the surface into two rings (not one). These hard to express but simple statements begin with the consideration of a Klein's bottle composed of two Moebious strips and gets around the idea that in three space there is concrete self intersection.

Friday, November 27, 2009

The Improvised Universe






Here a sketch of quasi-false color to distinguish more the nature of the cosmic background data. Much as in music, the loudness and frequency as a subjective factor and that of the subjective in color perception, we set here the group ideas and yet adjust the frequency (for those technically in the know) to 262.5 or C = Red-Orange so that the tuning is balanced to our innate recognition of a fundamental frequency via the harmonics even if such a frequency is not there. Not also the inverse of the spectrum is not adjusted such that the binary information of the tritone is the true complementary of which I would like to find if we can find at least a uniform color perception space- then again the point is, at least in matters of light, that we can have certain other designations of what is the primary due to the bit depth. Also, as if the just scale we find the golden ratio suggested as a matter of the quadradic space.

In thinking of how my roommate and I could make some money (that is enough to live on at least- to become shall we say: Thousand-aires, I looked over some materials to make say the models of geometric things as an educational tool- and thought about micro mechanical wheels spun by polarized light (analogous to the eddies upon approaching by a magnet to a metal disc) the goal of which is not the spin as much as the reduction of the impulse in some direction that collectively this reduces the apparent weight of an object (not less than zero) - then again something on the sciencechat came up involving small wheels and nanotech- I am not that much of an engineer to feel these ideas have applied merit but I do get a very optimistic feeling of what new technology awaits us if we want to use it and find more rational theories to contain the conflict of what is subjective and objective, human and machine. Life delayed in the cycle- well, is that not the principle of the gasoline engine of Otto in reference to the laws of heat and efficiency?

Perhaps, if the Creator is, He is at least a Jazz musician- only we cannot distinguish the decibels of the stray bits of white noise when the brightness is turned down on the television of photons from the big bang, let alone their color or even the more exotic warps and spirals and looping time of their spin. Perhaps.

Tuesday, November 24, 2009

Quasic Multi-teleoscoping Principle







A higher quasic dimension can map (hypothesis) uniquely multiple paths (as if a neuro-network) of lower quasic dimensions where these are "flanged" into an actual natural dimensional path.

* We can imagine the general interaction of cloud-like regions we can interpret as particles.

* The quasic algorithms may interpret and make more rational micro-algorithmic methods and view.

* On this level we may describe alternative and absolute parallel paths, predict and see them.

* Quasic time is different from other theories and forms of time.

* By quasic we mean here teleoscoping through relaxed possibilities actualized and so on to create an organized (entropic?) region or cloud of the interactions of data.

* There is a direct (in three and four natural space) relation to an evolving universe or discorce of gene encoding quasicontinuous or quasifinite or not.

* We should not always separate the complex wave phase space and classical configuration like spaces, octonians and quaterions as ideas have not be quasically considered int he unfoldings.

* It is still not clear if quasi and natural algorithms applied to a physical organism is in unity with or independent of mental models.

* Quantum ideas are not sufficiently powerful or complete enough to decisively describe, save interpreted after the fact what we regard as supernatural or not real including the idea of time beginning or not for the wave equation of the universe.


Note: I will post the poem after all and with extensive commentary that seems to have awakened these theoretical thoughts. Truth Fought for Needs Fear No Phantoms which continues into ideas or footnotes more concerning the level of human beliefs and social states---this forthcoming as soon as the ideas are organized bursting now the margins of the paper (actually back of scrap paper that contained some rather interesting and now understood Eastern prayers and sutras of my roommate) The poem begins (thanx for the Einstein picture link followed blogger):

There are as many universes as there are
photos of Einstein, his hand on the
Tesla coil; his hair charged, hedgehog explosions

Monday, November 23, 2009

The Corn and Red Winged Black Birds



I have been practicing music a lot, my fingers sore and am almost lost into theory of some sorts. I will post some of these experiments somewhere sooner or later. I also have this idea of some computer applications which seem to go beyond what we have applied of music theory- for one thing to my ears chords do not resolve at the octave but at twice that- and we can extend these principles in a non-linear or quasic way much as we seem to restrain ideas of time (a good article on this today in the reference frame blog I follow) In a sense things resolve into the three and four fold quasic states or dimensions of chords but that does not end but shows the boundaries of the matter (and perhaps matter itself) as for my color encoding that came from layer candle ideas it seems to me that my long question of finding the compliments (that is color theory) was indeed a hard one that no one understood what I was asking. The tempered scale applies to color too in these models but when we try to find the equivalents of Crayola 24 pack crayons it seems to me we have to deal for computer applications with at least 384 or 96 arrangements as some sort of group theory. The same number (after all 196 was Plato's music number)seems to apply to how we make integral the integrals of the twelfth root of two applied to the timing of things digitally- for example the sampling scale of DVD masters.

Soon I will no longer visit the science philosophy chat forums and have a copy as of last week of all the things there in the code in case anyone else is interested. And soon we will set up the art domains of which these cornflowers is to be the symbol of wisdom as they first came up with the old Bright Acres candle company.

Happy Holidays- I did post a rather deep and obscure psychological poem (damn, there are so many depressed people around me caught up in these times so some of it is to try to understand their mental states and know why they knowing this does not help them. So I myspace I posted The Law and Ghostly Entanglements ( www.myspace.com/ottonian ) which makes some connections of which I may use as I suggested here in a novelette The Purple Foxglove. I also wrote a piece I did not post today as I am not sure how it would be received as if it was not stated well- I may post it later but the heart of it is the theme we each determine our world in the end and can shield it from the realities possible by the plans of others- that is if we are awakened to it. This especially true of all the political struggles and imagined conspiracies in the world, But I am not sure what question I am asking here clearly enough yet.

Just how close when we are sensitive to the paranormal do we dwell and interfere in each others paths and heads? Lately I have kept my blinds closed sensing the distress of many chance encounters with the lady across the way who looks up at me when I am playing or writing. It is annoying to have to walk the other way, a little longer but so far our paths have not crossed. I am not sure why our very irregular schedules went in sync. But you see the blinds were significant in the foxglove story and my writings were about how we see and are seen in the various physics as a theme. The themes of the poetry and the coincidences of it all and the pale analogs to what is destiny or creators are finished for now as complete as I think they can be- then again we do make our own ultimate realities.

The people on the blogs I follow and did so mostly at random are rather interesting and quite remarkable and I am sensitive to their influence as we all are when we are exquisitely sensitive to life - usually rare moments- as if we are in true first love.

Friday, November 20, 2009

Victorian Journalism of the Soul


Victorian Journalism of the Soul Leonard Edgar Otto 11-20-09

The field not depleted, scarred and wrinkled
of its trace minerals and water table, its soil
Awaits the average poet to plant the seed corn
or the lesser poet to become tangled up in weeds

Between the lamb's and goat milk and cash cows
the flock of red wing black birds and the sea of corn
The making of cheese, the fife gone climate warm and dry
watered down dimensions, mammals with cold blood a delicate affair

Shepherds, traveling salesmen, milk maids seduced
by the Lord of the manor, harvesting the town and gown
The truck and sheaves at the fete of the auction block
the wild boars rendered by steam tractors

Bits of persistent former dreams, garden innocence forgotten
The birth of runes of myth, great ox alphabets past ripe for compost.

* * *

Although I'm full of logic, my ravens and my writing desk
we all must go down the rabbit hole, run in place
Hitchhiking through the woods narrow paths and unpaved country roads
Our feet carrying anthrax or blight on the Norway Christmas trees
From the Fens and blogs, petrified logs of Isle of Ely to Oxford town

In search of Wessex or Yoknapatawpha, run hare and fox with hounds
afraid of cowpox inoculations, observe fan vaults of fanfare
As we hunt the witches of Salem or Endor awaiting another
padded chapter, edited in the telegraph
To become our daily local news after crossing Atlantis

The spiral ascent tot he top of towers
raising St. George's flag unto dragons can be exhausting
The descent into caves and catacombs, latent embryonic dreams
can trap us forever as the passage narrows through Sue'z canal

* * *

As the towers we build and model in real time fall for what of dawning
Light comes through the Cathedral's ceiling, we erect there a lantern.

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Footnote on the blog: The poem above was written influenced by some of the blogs I follow with perhaps since some follow or read me I should add clearer content also. So now in draft I continue the reply to posts in the sciencechatforum and philo chats just in general thinking about how we change or not over time in a rant of sorts and rambling draft intellectually considering maybe the other's intent of viewpoints.

Innate Genius
may be only as deep as our ignorance, but trained genius is free from ignorance only to the worth of the training and depth of the context of available technology.

The conflicts then between science and culture as if fact or religion, on one side we're bewitched by the seeming facts of some dogma(we proud in our genius and our own discovery of it to understand). On the other side in the duller world of down to earth mystery (Lincoln's posts on religion again on the forum) some cling to metaphors (outside their field perhaps and thus the psychological need for it) as if reasonable discoveries in a way and similarly can be ignorant of that fact.

But a unified view of both sides also can question our notions of what is genius and what is ignorance and pride or embarrassment of the realization of it all we cover up over time with different reasons for our stumbles and achievements as we seek to make sense of the ever steeper curves of learning.

In a sense then not just ignorance by the deceit in our hearts but the mind itself can conjure and maintain our self deceptions, Oz behind the curtain or not. Yet, if there were not something mysteriously concrete in our thinking beyond fact and metaphor we would observe no progress, growth equal to its complexities if we desire them and solve or recognize thereby in expertise what distinguishes true science (hopefully to answer his question here) despite what it may appear Lincoln's can be seen as a serious question (from my view put awkwardly in the language)that does not just appeal to the polemics of philosophy with suspect metaphors taken also awkwardly at face value.

Thursday, November 19, 2009

Ten Favorite Things the Seamstress asked

Ten Favorite Things the Seamstress asked that Made us Happy L. Edgar Otto 11-18-11

The profuse stars at night

Her soul through the obscuring curtains at her shower

Forgotten taste of simple foods combined and rediscovered from childhood

Freckles and red hair

Flags of the world and other pure minimal art

The sound of the guitar when you first pick it up to play after a long time

When some people tell me my words made a difference
to them and I caught them happy

Awakening to the sense of life, its fragility and knowing
we survived and will despite the chill of night one with sunrise

That I have to notice sometimes that I am not sick
nor that the heat and cold more than we can deal with

Yes, and to go where no man has gone before...

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Other Bookmarks 11-19-09

The joy, and yes the sadness, of the first snow

The first cry and my words in reply to my newborn recognized

The awakening, sensing nightfall, of a thousand points
of light in succession around the solitary evening star

The smell of sour sap you test to believe again
on your hand that caged a June bug

The mummy inside discovered in a fallen butterfly
not just colored folding planes of paper

The overwhelming sting of the bumblebee, I made still until the pain passes,
stepped on barefoot; friction burning running through the dewy grasses

Firefly's smashed glow that smells of yellow green light;
mosquito bits you resist to scratch so not to lead to blood, make sore

The transparent beating heart of pond snail jelly through my
red eyes and toy microscope

The symphony of changing church bells Sunday morning as I
descend from the mountain down to the Zurich Zee

Sculpting clouds and painting sunsets, calling up the
storms when others can see it

Recalling the rare and deep reality of transcended moods and
moments only felt or forgotten by themselves...

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Collecting Imaginary Parts of Thought's Equations: 11-18-09


From the conceptual physics view and considering we have wave particle duality, matter viewed either way and distinctly as a possibility of existing in forms that do or do not recognize velocity but acceleration for example, why are we surprised of the dark influences of either energy or mass being there or for that matter ideas of multiversal decoherence as dark flow linked to initial cosmic beginnings?

The difference then between quantum and classical effects for me a quasic thing (see recent articles on the sciencechatforum and newscientist.com and our reference frame blogspot), the indefinite but extensive boundaries, that our general idea of what is multiverse and universe is a unified phenomenon we can take the leap to understand beyond our current mathematical limitations (and yes expertise, Lincoln) finding these deeper unities, st abilities of which our biases, left and right brains not fragmented but rationally dynamic and dialectical capable of evaluating some scientific or cultural truth (yes Lincoln, how to distinguish what we believe or do not believe is behind the curtain Oz!) This may not mean we place finer definition to leveled identities, fractally complex or otherwise - not in any cas as to rely only on chance variation measurement around its limited statistical framework and especially the unities unrecognized and beautifully designed ergonomics of what some suspect are super- and/or internal symmetries to be found.

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Clearly we need to deal with the non-linearity of the situation with the melody trace and silences of paths where there are more curves in a plane than lines and that more than the infinity of points on a line and so on... not just a smooth change in the plane as if our intuition of continuity- but the quasic plane as well which does negotiate the quantum and classical fronts of event and physics change. But of all these math things at one time or the other some have questioned these new procedures- comically and tragically and violently for some historically.

* * *

A note to readers if you got this far: This blog which the sciencechanceforum would have relegated me to as a blog is not their's- consequently it was not meant as a place to discuss or censor my more obscure styles of writing or necessarily for general readership. So the poems also are for the more down to earth readers although it was not evidence apparently to the philosophychatforum that I was capable of clear on varied thought.

Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Dancing in the Dead Zone








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Dancing in the Dead Zone L. Edgar Otto 11- 17 -09

Given the proper awe and respect
as if the creation worthy of a Creator
We could have foreseen the dance of chromosomes
the shielded logic in the cell nucleus
We who can speculate competently without caution
weigh the wonder and philosophic implications
Unlike those who work lies, don't mention truth, dole out and meter
what was in abundance free, an allowance of wisdom

Thantos is not a certain bogeyman nor
where worlds touch the womb full with the soon stillborn
Our chances, our universe of body and mind, that
something goes wrong with the micro choreography, self-destructs
Know you not we're not the only ones who dust the clouds for precious water?

* * *

As if the galaxy, the Lord's own cyclotron, iron whiskered crystal frozen
does not touch the smallest mote of light
Closed scriptures by approximations, imperfection idolized
the universe itself the Dark Demon with his gods and idols
False prophets and legions of Anti-Christs, a dead zone
You with tenuous faith in experiment question rationality
To which you may be blind in your magician's choice to truth free in perfection
the inner law of fantasy reasonable in itself and replete
With our humanity you cannot wish away- so do.

We domesticated or wild animals, rusty machines de trope
while some want to bring back, rebuild capital squandered.
Manufacturing more than leaded wine and drunkard's infertile dreams

The dance is one of joy in the dancing more than chance alone
The cosmic code, design, justice in equifinality built beyond struggle

* * *

What persists longer in our memories, the color
of Lover and passion, finds spiral reels, soundtracks for
Our soul and dreams, learning new birth more than engrams
written in meaningless cadences, artlessly inserted dust

Our tunes familiar, understood, simple within our hearts
but seem complex so as to enjoy, suspending disbelief
So we full of tunnels and black holes not lords of our knowing, our own hearts
our egg teeth breaks the bucky bunny balls easier from within

How else does and old song evoke the vaporous scent of memory?
How else our lingering selves make new and wider thoughts and words?
Or the scandalous early pain if we dare see it, relive and bear it
not end time crumbling cause spent colors, but stimulated to self-repair, heal

This work said business of the young and old- and the tightrope of the center
Our unwinding braids with tails live longer, makes life smarter, stronger

* * *

You ask, baiting, yet no philosopher left with your who really cares
For your checkered game board, forgotten passions, bottleneck obsolete epiphanies.


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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-11/uoc--cda111309.php

http://www.philosophychatforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&p=141010#p141010

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/16/cern_cloud_experiment/

http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/cern-cloud-experiment-began-operation.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LuboMotlsReferenceFrame+(Lubos+Motl%27s+reference+frame)

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Friday, November 13, 2009

On Ignoring My Questions Profound and Dumb


"It is unfortunate that the first intelligent species to arise to have control of its own effects on the planet was from the tribal carnivores" E. O. Wilson (paraphrase)

"All I know on the global warming debate is that the woodland sunflowers should have come back in profusion along the river by now." From this blog authors manuscript.

Can we set up a system of communication with the mission to promote science that in not a democratic enterprise with reasonable balances and restraints on the arguments- more perhaps a Lockean model of liberty and good weight than later philosophies of propaganda and adversarial arbitrary rules of judgment, especially if the mission statement includes assertions of intent for education as a shared and trusted enlightenment?

Nothing guarantees an open and diverse model as this can stand up to others logically where there is a vital struggle of the worth and gridlock and wasted effort ever renewed - save that it adapts to the experience and depth of our understanding of reality. This suggests the seemingly surpassed and obsolete philosophies by default of possibilities present and past will not go away at least to the state of our technology like the uncertainty of interpretations of the quantum view or the certainty in laws like relativity and Lorentz in their remote reach.

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The Quantum Logic of the Sentient Earth

L. Edgar Otto 11-13-09..

If
we
could see
each other
through our thousand eyes

Would
the
vision
have a life
God's eye of its own?

Of
course
quantum
mysteries
not a final word

The
more
we know
understand
the less some have said

What
do
we want
gathering
wild asparagus?

Do
we
not at
times find we
jumped across borders?

Have
we
evolved
be eaten, eat
collapsed light stalking?

Beamed
up
Scotty,
tunnel through
relativity

One
and
the same
Lorentz law
with decoherence

Our
souls
reach out
seeking love
persistent victims

* * *

Where Did the Speculation Go?

We
asked
if a
spinning thing
could rise, give us lift

I
read
it in
Popular
Science, I believed

Push
pull
impact
points between
centrifugal force

Your
own
lab tests
evidence
my report dismissed
epiphany, experiment

Does
that
correct?
teach magic?
respect shared science?

You
solved
theories
confident
you could sense truth

At
last
beyond
human doubts
through less certainty

Thrived
yet
erased
micro-worlds
multi-worlds my post

Your
eyes
narrowed
mine still dark
facts, your words of mouth?

If
spin's
contained
as you've thought
why cold positrons?

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Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Cyberspace Days of Silence (and Linear Measure of Quasic Distances Fractally)





An Ottonian Rant with a Rocket Flag
(Of hope for new American enterprise)



I have been practicing and playing a lot in the open mikes and have not been around the coffee shop and cyberspace that much. I am in a period of lesser creativity which reaches highs and downs in the confidence that I can sing and play. That and the insanity of the news both on the right and left- So there are to be no homeless veterans by 2010? I think I heard that said of 2003 did I not? In any case I chewed out the Eau Clare county service officer today after his remarks concerning ft hood yesterday. He just laughed at me. Guess they want everyone drugged up and they refuse to see the actual danger of the wingnuts (whatever their race or nationality). Allah Akbar to all those politically correct army shrink wounded types who are selling our nation and its citizens and own minorities, and yes its Veterans- down the drain. I don't know he did over there in Nam, get high? But for me I did not want to stand before our flag receiving an air medal for shooting anything in sight for a body count. All I wanted was a little school, a job, a place to live, something meaningful to do with and for others maybe a business where we actually make something real- At least not have to grow numb to rotting teeth- btw where is my so called tax refunds and stimulus? One day they will not give us the luxury of simply leaving us alone. And the universities are at the top of the in effect conspiricy to undermine the balance and fairness of our democratic nation- Yell at your service officer then Pro Republica- for our founders were not primitive and our Gods or lack of them not just an empty crying ascetic punishing space with less than modern hormones and fake oak leaves on their shoulders. I want to go to school as promised me- not have to stand in line for Columbian drug dealers and Iraqi and Iranian students and UAE engineers (damn our nation needs its own engineers and especially our own biochemists) who obviously work to undermine our free society despite the Bureau's cover up of what they did in our small town- let us not be silenced while we can still speak freely.

* * *

One thought of a couple of days ago wast that the actual measure of the length of curves in a quasic plane to higher degrees of resolution leads to a more profound definition of what continuity is and what sort of calculus we need to describe it. There are obvious applications especially to cyber graphics and other calculations.

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Wednesday, November 4, 2009

Thematic Interval Music Notation



Here we look at the symmetry of the cycles of the twelve tone group with the question of what rules are there for directions of the melody and why things move or are perceived to move into some direction. (This graph from long ago but now updated to consider negative directions was on my mind yesterday too for that difficult post and its fundamental concepts. Indeed, listening to Debussy on the university radio I recognized the whole tone themes but still the music seemed but an exercise rather than something of intrinsic meaning. Peter, as a future composer I hope this answers some of you questions and you do not lose faith in your enterprise, and thank you for the dialog on all this.